Talk:Patricia Banks Edmiston

Women in Green mini-review
From the request at WikiProject Women in Green/20-Minute Article Assessments. I'll make notes against each of the Good article criteria. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Copyvio check: In my opinion, the level of similarity with The History Makers source is unacceptable, unless there is a suitable explanation such as that site taking content from Wikipedia. (See https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&oldid=1179595926&action=compare&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thehistorymakers.org%2Fbiography%2Fpatricia-banks-edmiston). Some of the phrases are fine per WP:LIMITED but the rest needs to be rewritten in line with Plagiarism; also see Close paraphrasing.

1. Well-written. 2. Verifiable with no original research. 3. Broad in its coverage and 4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each. 5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. 6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:52, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * "one of the first black individuals in the flight attendant profession" - how about something like "one of the first black flight attendants"?
 * The lead is very short. Consider adding something from "After 1961"
 * "They also stated that they do not hire in New York", "they submitted that they do not discriminate" - shouldn't these be in past tense?
 * They are in past tense (stated, submitted). These were things they said in the past about what they were doing at the time. If I changed to to "They submitted that they did not discriminate" I do not think it would be accurate as they weren't claiming at that time that they previously did not discriminate, they were claiming at the time that they currently do not discriminate. Hopefully that makes sense.
 * "has been honored by the Smithsonian" - if possible, expand on the nature and timing of this honour (and, again if possible, add the year for her induction into the Black Aviation Hall of Fame)
 * ✅, still looking for more on the Smithsonian.
 * Expect some suggestions for prose improvements from the GA reviewer. I've mentioned a couple above.
 * ✅, still looking for more on the Smithsonian.
 * Expect some suggestions for prose improvements from the GA reviewer. I've mentioned a couple above.
 * I haven't checked the text against sources.
 * Sources appear to be of suitable quality. A quick search didn;t find any significant other sources.
 * No red flags from the current text, but I've only briefly looked over sources.
 * No issues.
 * I assume no suitable free-to-use images of Banks Edmiston are available.
 * Correct, and because she is a living person I am unable to use one under fair use.
 * Licence for the advert image seems fine. I'd suggest adding to the caption to explain its relevance.

Thanks for your work on the article. Obviously the similarity with The History Makers source needs to be addressed. I'm happy to take another look after that. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review, ! I've implemented everything you mentioned except for one, which I've explained above. Thank you very much for catching the potential copyvio issue with The History Makers–that was the only part of the article I didn't write, but obviously I should've reviewed it further. I reworded it as a best as possible, I think it is now compliant. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  21:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate another look if you have time. I did add some additional content since your mini-review. –– Formal Dude  (talk)  01:11, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The changes look good. There's a fairly high similarity match with a CBS News site that you could review, but it looks like most or of that is arguably acceptable either as the direct attributed quote, or per WP:LIMITED. (Same for the History Makers site, now.) A reviewer might question whether the images meet MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE. In my opinion, with the caveat that I haven't checked sources, the article is ready to be nominated as a GA. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:24, 19 October 2023 (UTC)