Talk:Patricia Cloherty

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Pat Cloherty is CEO and Chairman of Delta Private Equity Partners. She has played an important role over the past 35 years in shaping venture capital as we know it today in the US, the UK, France, Germany, Israel and Japan as well as Russia. In the course of this, she has also contributed to the success of companies on the cutting edge of innovation – companies that became world leaders in HIV protease inhibitors, coatings for indwelling devices, monoclonal antibodies and genomic technologies. Further, she has made a lasting contribution to entrepreneurship and small business development through her work with the SBA, SBIC, and the Kauffman Center for Entrepreneurial Leadership, and other organizations Pat was a founding member of Patricof & Co. Ventures when it began in 1970. Three years later, she became the first woman venture capital partner; subsequently she was named Co-Chairman, President and General Partner.

In April 2009, she was elected to the Board of NYSE Euronext.

In the March issue of Private Equity International, Delta and UFG, one of Delta's Limited Partners, have moved to the same premises. Patricia has also become a Senior Advisor to UFG in addition to her current position with Delta. Delta's internal rate of return is over 200%.

On March 17, 2008 President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin signed a decree awarding Pat the Order of Friendship for her major contribution to the development of Russian business and for strengthening friendship and cooperation between the Russian Federation and the United States of America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chisbarsel (talk • contribs) 13:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Edit War re this page
Hello all,

Let's please end the conflict over this page. I spent a good deal of time cleaning up the article only to have it undone! The content I added is factual, notable, verifiable with cited external sources, and neutrally presented. Someone with an IP address only reverted it back for me, thank you. Now let's not delete it again without discussion. (and I recommend that you use a registered username vs. anonymous login).

I believe the strength of the 3rd party references I provided, (Forbes, BusinessWeek, New York Stock Exchange, etc.) stand on their own. If an editor thinks any of my contributions are in error, please bring them to everyone's attention via this talk page, and cite some 3rd party references that contradict them. I cannot understand why an editor would delete the fact that she is a director of the New York Stock Exchange, the largest stock exchange in the world. It is right there on the NYSE website and certainly notable. This all seems like vandalism and a personal smear to me. Wikipedia is not the place for that. If an editor makes a mistake, bring it up with some supporting info. Otherwise don't delete properly referenced material.

If an editor wishes to add something such as a relationship with this UFG fund, he or she must provide a reliable, 3rd party source for it. One editor mentions a publication Private Equity International, but fails to actually cite the source. I found it, and the article in Private Equity International did NOT in fact state that the Delta Fund had "been taken over" or that Cloherty had "left the country." It mentions a "possible merger" and "collaboration." It states that UFG is a limited partner in Delta. It also mentions that the founder of UFG Boris Federov died, and the son of the founder, Pavel Federov, works for Delta -- not the other way around. The negative connotation created by that editor is not neutral and not verified by the source mentioned. I read it, you can read it for yourself here http://www.peimedia.com/Article.aspx?article=35975&hashID=237BAE80F7FA41644A74E7D23950D988C7B69549.

Finally, an article about Patricia Cloherty is not the place to provide new content regarding Mr. Charles Ryan being businessman of the year in 2004. I think an editor should make a new article for Mr. Ryan if he is notable, and provide a reliable citation for it.

If others think I the facts and references I provided are in error, or that I am mis-understanding the rules and guidelines for wikipedia, please advise me either here or on my talk page. Thank you.

Cgettings (talk) 15:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Sourcing for update?
Is there a source for the recently added (and removed) content ''In April 2009, United Financial Group assumed day to day operations of Delta and Cloherty left the country. UFG is led by Charles Ryan, a respected private equity investor. In 2004, Ryan received the award "Businessman of the Year" by the American Chamber of Commerce. ''? KillerChihuahua ?!?Advice 15:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)


 * In an earlier version the other editor claimed that this was sourced from an article in a magazine Private Equity International, however when you read the article it doesn't say that at all; no corporate takeover or fleeing the country. The article is here: Private Equity International. Also Charles Ryan and his awards don't really belong in this article.


 * Would it be ok to revert the whole article to the version of 14:34, 29 July 2009 oldid=304886211?  this would put it back to where I think it ought to be.  I think this version is properly referenced (although certainly open for comments on this as I am fairly new.) If there is consensus I would do this, thanks.  Cgettings (talk) 14:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Reverted back to version of 14:34, 29 July 2009 304886211
Editor keeps deleting verifiable content, so I reverted it as described above. Please drop me a note here or my talk page to discuss, thanks. Cgettings (talk) 04:34, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Private Equity International
Added reference to magazine article wherein Cloherty says a merger is being considered with UFG. I think wikipedia is not for news articles, so this might not be appropriate. Does a "possible" merger constitute news or encyclopedic content? Looking for advice, thanks. Cgettings (talk) 05:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sources for Update
Hi,

I haven't been able to find any sources that indicate there was a takeover, or that Cloherty left the country or that management was replaced. The Private Equity International link doesn't say that. Reliable 3rd party citations must be provided -- particularly for the biography of a living person. I am going to revert the last edit -- but please post a good citation here and I will revert my revert!! Thanks and cheers! Cgettings (talk) 01:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, the content you deleted: President Putin's award of the Order of Friendship, is well documented and WAS properly sourced. This also breaches Wikipedia editing guidelines. Please don't do that anymore. Thank you. Cgettings (talk) 01:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Notifed Happy225 of violation of policy by adding uncited content. Such edits do constitute vandalism, because no reason was ever given, and the content seems somewhat defamatory. Netalarm  01:48, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 December 2012
There appears to be a disagreement about including Cloherty's age in Wikipedia. Another user does not seem to be convinced that a living person stays perpetually at the age of 69 (sourced from http://www.forbes.com/profile/patricia-cloherty) from 2011. We are now at the end of 2012 and she has obviously aged another year making her age 70. To make things easier, we could state that she was born in 1942. I am beginning to wonder if the other user works for Cloherty and is somehow in denial that she is 70 years old. In any case, I believe this is a minor edit which is continuously reversed by another editor. I would appreciate it if you could look into this and include my edit for the sake of accuracy.

Happy225 (talk) 01:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Note: Happy225 is a single-purpose account with a edit history limited to this article only. His edits to this article have been almost entirely disruptive. His modus operandi is to accuse random editors of being employed by the subject when they work to prevent his vandalising the article in question. His talk page and this one give some account of the history including multiple warnings and at least one block. The edit request above is entirely bad-faith. There is nothing in the source to confirm it was published in 2011. It may have been published more or less recently than that. We simply do not know. The subject's supposed DOB was previously removed as unsourced after the suggestion was made by the closing admin, at this article's AfD, that such a claim should be sourced. I couldn't care less if the subject is 7, 70 or 170 but we don't know; we don't yet have a source to confirm it that doesn't require WP:OR to draw the conclusion that Happy225 has. If the "fact" is so easy to verify, as Happy225 has claimed, there should be plenty of reliable sources for us to use. But it's worth noting that even Happy225 hasn't been able to decide between 70 and 72 - trying to edit-war each into the article on different occasions; something that was noted by the admin who protected this article. Much LOLs. Stalwart 111  04:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. — Mr. Stradivarius  (have a chat) 10:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)