Talk:Patrick III, Earl of Dunbar

Who did he marry?
This page states he married Marjory Comyn; Genealogics (linked) calls him 7th earl (same death date though, so talking about the same man) and has him married to Cecelia FitzJohn; Nigel Tranter marries him to Christian Bruce (dau Robert de Brus, 5th Lord of Annandale). A novelist, I know, but he must have some source. That's not the only difference: genealogics says his mother is Euphemia de Brus, not Stewart (as stated on Patrick II). Now I am thoroughly confused.Gwinva 20:49, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You are right, Leo at genealogics shows that he married Cecelia FitzJohn and it was their *son* who married Marjory Comyn. I've changed this entry to match what genealogics shows, since that site also lists it's sources explicitely. Wjhonson 07:01, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding this here, as within scope of this page rather than article itself:


 * More research needs to done on Patrick III Earl of Dunbar. The marriages listed above are not consistent with known records. His mother was Cecily (wife of Patrick II). His wife and mother of Cecily of Dunbar that married Alexander Steward was Marjory Comyn, daughter of Alexander Comyn Earl of Buchan. This raises serious questions as to his taking sides against the Clan Comyns and their power for he had married one them and had several children. (The author of these comments may be confusing Patrick III with his son, Patrick IV.)

Brendandh (talk) 10:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)