Talk:Patrick Keogh

Sources for expansion
Some online newspaper articles that may be valuable in expanding the article: -- Shudde  talk 09:14, 18 August 2015 (UTC) -- Shudde  talk 11:03, 18 August 2015 (UTC) - Shudde  talk 04:13, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * This spends a lot of time on Keogh and I hadn't seen it before.
 * Author of this is "Off-side Mac" -- William McKenzie (rugby union) -- who played for the All Blacks in 1893 and was considered quite a tactician..
 * Discussion of an incident where Keogh was sent off in a Dunedin club match; his team departed the field in protest and forfeit the match, and in the process lost the club championship!
 * Author of this is "Off-side Mac" -- William McKenzie (rugby union) -- who played for the All Blacks in 1893 and was considered quite a tactician..
 * Discussion of an incident where Keogh was sent off in a Dunedin club match; his team departed the field in protest and forfeit the match, and in the process lost the club championship!
 * Discussion of an incident where Keogh was sent off in a Dunedin club match; his team departed the field in protest and forfeit the match, and in the process lost the club championship!
 * Discussion of an incident where Keogh was sent off in a Dunedin club match; his team departed the field in protest and forfeit the match, and in the process lost the club championship!
 * A history of the Kaikorai Football Club from 1884 to 1889.
 * Near the end of the article it says: Most creditably did they uphold the honour of Maoriland. I don't think any New Zealand team could do better than they did. One thing is certain – a New Zealand team will be a long time before they ever have such a flying half-back as 'Pat' Keogh, of Dunedin, whom the English footballers and critics considered the best half they had ever seen. Aye, even the redoubtable 'Jimmy' Duncan could not compare with the famous 'Pat,' and it will, I think, be many a long day before Maoriland possesses such a crack half-back as the old Kaikorai player.
 * From the article Keogh, the old Otago representative of a quarter of a century ago, and a member of Warbrick's Native team that visited England in the eighties, was probably the greatest half-back the Rugby world has ever produced. His success was due entirely to his versatility in methods. Neither opponents nor spectators knew what he was going to do next. He was the first player to bounce the ball on tbe head of an opponent on a line-out, catch it, and streak down the field. He was an adept in kneeing the ball over the head of an opposing player; he feinted, he hurdled, he kicked; his play was never the same two minutes together.
 * Near the end of the article it says: Most creditably did they uphold the honour of Maoriland. I don't think any New Zealand team could do better than they did. One thing is certain – a New Zealand team will be a long time before they ever have such a flying half-back as 'Pat' Keogh, of Dunedin, whom the English footballers and critics considered the best half they had ever seen. Aye, even the redoubtable 'Jimmy' Duncan could not compare with the famous 'Pat,' and it will, I think, be many a long day before Maoriland possesses such a crack half-back as the old Kaikorai player.
 * From the article Keogh, the old Otago representative of a quarter of a century ago, and a member of Warbrick's Native team that visited England in the eighties, was probably the greatest half-back the Rugby world has ever produced. His success was due entirely to his versatility in methods. Neither opponents nor spectators knew what he was going to do next. He was the first player to bounce the ball on tbe head of an opponent on a line-out, catch it, and streak down the field. He was an adept in kneeing the ball over the head of an opposing player; he feinted, he hurdled, he kicked; his play was never the same two minutes together.
 * From the article Keogh, the old Otago representative of a quarter of a century ago, and a member of Warbrick's Native team that visited England in the eighties, was probably the greatest half-back the Rugby world has ever produced. His success was due entirely to his versatility in methods. Neither opponents nor spectators knew what he was going to do next. He was the first player to bounce the ball on tbe head of an opponent on a line-out, catch it, and streak down the field. He was an adept in kneeing the ball over the head of an opposing player; he feinted, he hurdled, he kicked; his play was never the same two minutes together.
 * Might be a bit too WP:PRIMARY for me, but is a report of the ORFU branding Keogh a 'professional' and banning him from the game.
 * More but less useful.
 * More but less useful.
 * More but less useful.
 * -- from Google books. Secondary source on his ban for gambling. -- Shudde  talk 04:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * this time from Jimmy Duncan (rugby union) in 1909. -- Shudde  talk 10:19, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Against British Isles in 1888
Keogh's obituary says that he played three matches for Otago against the 1888 British Isles teams, but other sources don't back this up. Looks like he in fact missed the first match due to injury, and in the third match he can't have even been in New Zealand, as the Natives had departed New Zealand by early August. -- Shudde  talk 23:44, 18 August 2015 (UTC)