Talk:Pau Gasol/Archive 1

Personal Info
Most of the personal info that I have posted on this site is shown on Nike's webpage that was created for Pau Gasol, and I have seen that site many times, if anyone is willing to question the information. This is a reliable website which was built by Nike. Gamloverks (talk) 01:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Good article nomination
I saw this article at WP:GAC and decided take a look (but I am not officially reviewing this article). A couple of things that I noticed just by skimming the article.


 * 1) Per WP:LEAD, the lead is way too short.
 * 2) Per WP:LAYOUT, the article has way too many section headers that have little content underneath them.
 * 3) There is a ton of unsourced content.

It would probably be a good idea to take care of these problems before a GA reviewer decides to review this article. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 19:15, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Fixed the majority of unsourced content, and retooled the headers so that most information that has to do with that season is included and information that did not have enough were grouped together. I'm still working on the lead though. Gamloverks (talk) 19:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I have also redone the intro with some more information added in. anything else that should be improved? Gamloverks (talk) 20:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


 * A few things: the article still isn't up to GA standards. For instance, the lead still isn't up to GA quality and the sections are still too short. Read WP:GACR, and make sure that you go through the article, line by line, and make sure that the article satisfies our good article criteria. Take a look at some other good articles on active basketball players for some ideas on how to bring this one to GA (there are some good articles on NBA players listed at WP:NBA). While I've only skimmed the article, I did notice that the controversial nature of his trade to the Lakers is not mentioned. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 02:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I would also like to point out that this article is way better than it was just a few weeks ago. Although the GA nomination has been withdrawn, I'd like to see you keep working towards GA status. Ice Cold Beer (talk) 04:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I added the controversy surrounding the trade. I have been using articles such as Kobe Bryant and Steve Nash to get better. I'll continue to work on the articles as I find more information. I didn't just want to put unnecesary information in there, but I'll continue to look around. Gamloverks (talk) 20:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review
Transcluded from Peer review/Pau Gasol/archive1

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The name is indeed Pau not Paul
It is indeed PAU Gasol not PAUL Gasol. Go look it up for yourself. Gamloverks (talk) 04:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Cite References please.
If you add anything, please cite the place where you got your information from so I don't have to go back through it and do it. Gamloverks (talk) 05:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Sant Boi?
Well, in the first sentence appear that "Pau Gasol born July 6, 1980 in Sant Boi de Llobregat" Instead in the Personal life: "he was born in Sant Pau Hospital, where both of his parents worked, in the city of Barcelona". I don't know which is correct, but a person can only born in one place. Acording to external links, he was born in Barcelona. So I think Sant Boi it's incorrect. Saquet (talk) 16:03, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out, I'll have to do some fixing with that because I've had miscellaneous vandalism on this page. Gamloverks (talk) 20:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

New Pic
If anyone could upload a good and decent picture of Gasol in a Lakers jersey according to wikipedia standards, that would be great. I don't have the time to go look for one. Gamloverks (talk) 20:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The quality isn't the best, but I uploaded new picture of him. --Ted87 (talk) 22:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That will do for now until we get a better pic of him. Gamloverks (talk) 18:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Playoff Stats
Playoff stats need to be updated. I am busy and do not have the time to do such things right now. Gamloverks (talk) 00:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

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Clean Up And Expansion
Did some major clean up and added a lot more information from his Bio on NBA.com. Along with adding statistics as well. Added a photo. Gamloverks (talk) 10:08, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

he is single! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.147.7.0 (talk) 01:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Slanted eye picture
This picture is discussed twice, in both the end of the player profile section and in the controversy section, they both seem to be more or less identical, I think we should remove one. Dukemmm (talk) 18:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That seems fair. Just decide which one you want to get rid of. Chengwes (talk) 02:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes I agree, it only needs to be mentioned once. Gamloverks (talk) 19:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
A big thanks goes out to all of those who have been keeping this page up to GA status while I've been away. You guys are awesome and keep up the good work! Gamloverks (talk) 19:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Fouled out
Gasol did foul out for the first time some weeks ago http://bleacherreport.com/articles/158951-lakers-tune-out-the-jazz-in-first-round-opener-113-100, so that part of the article is now outdated and needs correction —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frtldrdhl (talk • contribs) 06:18, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

2008-2009 Year
Seeing as we've only got one line mentioning the 2008-2009 playoff run, I do think it would be better if we expanded on that somewhat, instead of leaving it just at the one liner. It's a championship year, so we should probably do some more work with that. Gamloverks (talk) 05:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Full name
I noticed that his family names are written as Gasol i Sàez, with a grave accent over the letter a, but the name of his brother is written as Gasol i Sáez, with an acute accent. I don't know which is correct, but one of them is incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Njk92 (talk • contribs) 03:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * That's a good point, it will require some research, but maybe using his official NBA profile would be best at this time? Gamloverks (talk) 05:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You can't put an acute accent over an "a" in catalan.79.148.60.166 (talk) 14:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Gasol is a catalan surname, but Sáez is a Spanish one. No person in the world is called Sàez, that is anti-spanish integrism, and Pau Gasol is a very pro-Spanish guy. In fact, putting this à in his second surname can be considered an attack in Wikipedia by the Catalan separatists, declared enemies of Pau Gasol. So put Sáez back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.138.240 (talk) 11:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

As you can read here it is spelled Sáez: http://www.acb.com/jugador.php?id=A2C --80.37.139.14 (talk) 07:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation of his name
I don't know if there's any convention to write the pronunciation of a name, but being Spanish I'd pronounce his name as Pow gas-all (like in gas[oline] and the 'a' like in All-[stars] or tall or call not like 'shall' or 'pal' as the article suggests). --150.214.94.101 (talk) 11:23, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah in Spanish pronounciation it is POW GAH-SOHL! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SancLunatic (talk • contribs) 06:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Being myself both Catalan and Spanish speaker I can say that the sound translation of his name is wrong. It is pronounced PAW not POW. 'Pau' means 'Pablo' in Spanish ('Paul' in English). 'Pau' also means 'peace' in Catalan. And POW (written as 'pou' in Catalan') means 'well'. His surname is pronounced in Catalan 'gah-ZOHL', with a vibriting 's' like the English 'z' and 'gah-SOHL' with a 's' like the English word 'sound' in Spanish. His second surname is written with an '`' accent in Catalan (Sàez) and with an '´' written accent in Spanish (Sáez) (the '`' written accent does not exist in Spanish). (Toni)--83.37.77.194 (talk) 09:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

But his name is not in spanish, his name is in Catalan, and the O is Gasol we pronounce different. Pau, in catalan, means peace, is a typical boy name. I propose to change the mention spanish name to a catalan name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.184.161.21 (talk) 20:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

You should notice that Pau Gasol Sáez is in Facebook, and his name there is like that "Pau Gasol Saez" (The accent on Sáez is missed, provably because he does not use a Spanish keyboard). But not "Pau Gasol i Saez". He is Catalan, right, and in Catalan language traditionally u link the two second names with an "i", right. But, you can have your name also without an "i", being Catalan. If he writes his own name withoug "i" between both surnames, maybe he does not even has it in his passport... I think you should respect his own spelling, and not change it just because you wish he wished to write it in the Catalan way instead the Spanish usual way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.6.242 (talk) 16:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Debster88, 26 April 2010
Under the "Personal Life" heading, we'd like to adjust "Children's Hospital of Hollywood" to "Childrens Hospital Los Angeles" and the words should link to our page at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childrens_Hospital_Los_Angeles

Thanks so much!

Debster88 (talk) 16:00, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done -- &#47; MWOAP &#124; Notify Me &#92; 16:26, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Pau Gasol is Spanish
Pau Gasol born is Spain, his official nacionality is Spanish. Catalonia is a region of Spain and the reference says "Native of Catalonia, a region on the coast of Spain", AND? He is still Spanish and Catalonia is still a Region of Spain. If somebody wants to know the region of Barcelona, it's easy reading the article of Barcelona, but his nacionality is Spanish and only Spanish. He is Spanish, Catalonian, Barcelonian, European, Sanboyan.... but his only official nacionality is Spanish--84.122.175.235 (talk) 10:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Just changed it back to Spanish and born in the region of Barcelona under personal info. Someone had changed his nationality to "French" and birthplace to "Paris, France" for some reason.M4077 (talk) 07:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

A must add section for a great player
Why is there no seperate section for his Olympic participation. Many great players have it why not him (his brother does and he's not even close to Pau's athleticism) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.230.3.250 (talk) 02:31, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

The "Player profile" section
This section needs a renewal, for example, he has been in NBA 10 years, to my mind the stats are old and he had an injury. Fix, if you can.--Edgars2007 (talk) 14:34, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay...
This is getting ridiculous, are these changes even logical? I wanted a good intro, and I created a good intro, why wasn't that a good intro? I'm kind of trying to figure out why it got changed, whoever made the changes, please enlighten me! Gamloverks (talk) 00:02, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The people who changed it don't even have a user page except for one, what is going on? Unless someone explains why it was changed, I'm going to revert it back. Gamloverks (talk) 00:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

He is catalan and hes name is : Pau Gasol i Sàez, he is born in Spain but he is from Catalonia that is region inside the spain, I am sorry, but if this information is not in hes wikipedia page it would be strange, most people have their identity listed as well. Nobody is saying that he is not spanish as spain is a country but he is also catalan and everybody knows, or should know, that catalans have their own identity inside spain, including language and culture, this is reality and nobody can argue against it, it would be like saying that there is no difference between native americans and americans. Spain is not only country in the world with more than one language and culture, I think all countries are like this, being against peoples identity in my book is like being rasist. Let people have their own identity, please. Barcelona, Spain does not exist, it is ( including IMDB and offically ) Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain. Spain is famous enough, why always such a fear against people who lives in spain and plays for spain but have more than one identity ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.125.105.169 (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * His nationality is Spanish. If you look for Woody Allen in wikipedia, you'll find out that he is (surprise, surprise!!) AMERICAN, not Newyorker. Pau is not catalonian or barcelonian or wathever. He is Spanish. (This is common sense, for ****'s sake) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.62.37.2 (talk) 13:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Could we avoid using rude language? His origins have to change since it may lead to misinterpretation: Being Spanish does not imply being Catalan. On the other hand, being Catalan does imply being Spanish. Hence, a reference to his Catalan origins must be pointed out.
 * Also, it is a common consensus in wikipedia (even if I do not personally agree with it) to use nationality in terms of [List of Sovereing States] and not nations. Both considerations get us to a solution approved and used in several ocasions with other biographies regarding Catalan personalities:


 * "Pau Gasol i Sàez (pronounced POW gah-SOHL ; IPA [ˈpaʊ̯ gəˈzɔɫ]) (born July 6, 1980 in Sant Boi de Llobregat, Catalonia) is a 2.13 m (7 ft.) Catalan Spanish professional basketball player for the Los Angeles Lakers of the National Basketball Association (NBA)."


 * It's a short, not tedious text that states clearly his Spanish and Catalan origins.--Civit cardona (talk) 11:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * After nearly a week, seems that nobody cares. Hence should I understand you find the change appropiate?--Civit cardona (talk) 07:26, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I've been busy with many things but I'm not really good at speaking any other language except english, so I'm not really sure. Gamloverks (talk) 05:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

His nacionality is Spanish, the region of spain is not important, if anyone want to know in what region is Barcelona, go a look Barcelona article, but the nacionality of Pau is spanish, and ONLY Spanish.--Codorado (talk) 00:52, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Why do other Spaniards insist in their imperialist outlook? A Scottish or Welsh person is correctly identified as such, even though Scotland or Wales are not sovereign countries (they have some devolved powers very much like Catalonia does, but belong to the United Kingdom) and even though they are British citizens (according to their passports). Why are Spanish people so afraid of this recognition of Catalonia (and the Basque country and Galicia)? This is very antidemocratic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.148.41 (talk) 16:31, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It's standard to list a person's nationality in the lead. Other specific details of origin are generally left for the body of the article, unless it is pertinent to the person's notability. I do not think his being Catalan is a major part of his notability. See also WP:OPENPARAGRAPH.—Bagumba (talk) 17:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Spanish Natinal career section???
WHERE IS IT??? I'm flored there's no article. Everyother basketball player has one even his other Spanish teammates.--Anen87 (talk) 03:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Infobox image
Another unexplained edit switching the infobox image. Not sure why we would change from photo with clear view of his face (left) to one where he is looking down and his face is obscured (right).—Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It seems reasonable to replace a 2008 picture with a 2013 picture of slightly lower quality, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Except his look hasn't drastically changed in those photos, so the date is rather trivial.—Bagumba (talk) 06:27, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Personally, I agree with you and think the one of the left is better suited for the top of the page. Maybe it was changed because the original was taken in 2008 and the new one was taken in 2013? Not sure if that should really matter though since they both show Gasol as a Laker. - Marchjuly (talk) 06:07, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2014
Currently a member of the Chicago Bulls

75.99.59.171 (talk) 19:28, 16 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to any article. - Arjayay (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 January 2015
Please add "Gold 2004 Athens National Team" under the medal section, because Pao Gasol played for Spain and won a gold medal, but the article neglected to add the gold medal in the medal section. The medal section for the summer olympics only lists 2008, 2012, which is inaccurate considering his greatest olympic achievement was attained in 2004, while winning a gold.

50.113.54.137 (talk) 20:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Basketball at the 2004 Summer Olympics shows that Spain did not earn a medal in 2004.—Bagumba (talk) 20:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2015
46.217.25.113 (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2015 (UTC) team7 = FC Barcelona
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. I haven't found any sources to indicate he is returning to Barcelona. Altamel (talk) 16:11, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2016
Superscript text

In the first paragraph, change "one of only two non-American NBA players" to "one of only three non-American NBA players."

See references for winners section of the NBA Rookie of the Year article.

174.21.27.103 (talk) 23:00, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Dane 2007  talk 01:21, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

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first sentence, missing a word
first sentance: Pau Gasol Sáez (Catalan pronunciation: [ˈpaw ɣəˈzɔl], Spanish pronunciation: [ˈpau ɣaˈsol]; born July 6, 1980) is a Spanish professional basketball player who for the Milwaukee Bucks of the National Basketball Association (NBA).

possible correction: ...who plays for... --Benderstream (talk) 06:35, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. I simply removed the "who". Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 07:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

First paragraph missing a word
I put the word team in the sentence "He is a six-time NBA All-Star and a four-time All-NBA team selection, twice on the second team and twice on the third team." Because without the word team it is highly confusing. What is an "All-NBA"? There is no such thing as an "All-NBA".

When I first read the article, I struggled to understand the meaning of "All-NBA", and I have been an NBA fan for almost two decades. And the reason is that there is no such thing as "All-NBA", it is "All-NBA team".

I checked other Wikipedia articles of basketball players, and they do employ the same policity of mentioned "All-NBA team" selections, not "All-NBA selections".

In Tony Parker's Wikipedia article, it is said that "Parker was named to six NBA All-Star games, three All-NBA Second Teams, and an All-NBA Third Team."

In LeBron James's Wikipedia article, it is said that "James was selected to the All-NBA First Team twelve times (all-time record)"

In Kobe Bryant's Wikipedia article, it is said that Bryant was "15-time member of the All-NBA Team"

In Kevin Durant's Wikipedia article, it is said that Durant has "been selected to nine All-NBA teams".

I am not saying it was completely bad before. Just saying that, in my opinion, it is better to include the word team to avoid any sort of confussion and to improve the clarity of the content. It is also important to note that in the vast majority of Wikipedia articles of basketball players, it is sad that they have "All-NBA team" selections, not "All-nba" selections. It seems to be the general policiy of Wikipedia. I wold not recoment excluding the word team, unless there is a very solid reason to do so. James343e (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2021
His daughter was born on September 10 not the 13th. In the caption on catmcdonnell7 post from September 13th she states “Elisabet Gianna Gasol joined our family on September 10th, 2020” 2601:243:C501:4700:E921:3933:7FC5:CDEC (talk) 20:53, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
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