Talk:Pau Torres

Requested move 8 November 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) feminist (t) 05:03, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Pau Torres (footballer, born 1997) → Pau Torres – Per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, Pau Torres (footballer, born 1987) is a relatively unknown player coming to the 1997 one, and is on the verge of the retirement. BRDude70 ( talk ) 23:25, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Support on the basis that the 1997 player is averaging 200+ daily page views, while the 1987 player is around 6. That is fairly conclusive to me with regards to establishing a primary topic. A hatnote to the 1987 player would easily suffice, as there are no other articles for people by this name. Bungle (talk • contribs) 18:25, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 00:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 18:23, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Oppose - page views are not indicative of something being a PRIMARYTOPIC. GiantSnowman 18:24, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * With respect, when it's |Pau_Torres_(footballer,_born_1997) 200+ vs 6 daily average, I think it's difficult to dispute. During late Sept/early Oct, a number of days this person was getting around or over |Pau_Torres_(footballer,_born_1997) 1000+ a day (yes, that is exceptional, but a consistent average far exceeding the 1987 player). I appreciate reservations when a PT is judged on average page views, but when the gap is as significant (and consistently so) as this, it's a tough one to question. Please could you elaborate why you don't think this is significant to the discussion? Bungle (talk • contribs) 07:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * because people spend some time in the news and readers want to read about them. Imagine a mass murderer killing 50 people, called Abraham Lincoln. I imagine his page would get far more page views at that time than the politician... GiantSnowman 07:50, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I wonder if you have reviewed the pageview history of these articles before making your judgement? Looking at the |Pau_Torres_(footballer,_born_1997) page views last year (2020), it was 373 vs 9 on the average daily. |Pau_Torres_(footballer,_born_1997) This year (2021), it's 873 vs 25 for the daily average. This isn't someone who has only recently been of particular interest, yet you need to go back |Pau_Torres_(footballer,_born_1997) over 2 years to when the gap was closer, but still moderate. I am indifferent as to whether the article moves or not, but it does satisfy WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Bungle (talk • contribs) 17:07, 12 November 2021 (UTC)