Talk:Paul's Boutique/Archive 1

The Source list
I want you to correct the information about The Source list, because Paul's Boutique has never appeared on The Source 100 best hip-hop albums of all time list, according to the real The Source magazine from January 1998. _ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wydawnictwo Niezalezne (talk • contribs) 11:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Conception
The first paragraph contradicts itself. It says they were written off by the critics, but a couple of sentences later it says that their previous album had been critically acclaimed. These are opposites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.37.65 (talk) 14:59, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Seperate Sample Article
I think it would be a good idea, considering the length of the "Samples" part of the main article to make a seperate article with possibly even more info on what the samples are (i.e.: The "Funky Drummer" sample on Shadrach can be described as the acoustic beat starting at ?:??). Good idea? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.57.47.93 (talk) 20:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

The Dust Brothers
Although there is a link to the Dust Brothers under personnel, I think some discussion of their influence on the creation of this album is merited.

--Jfransella 13:50, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

AMG says the backing tracks were produced by the Dust Bros. for their own debut album, but the Beasties convinced them to turn it into a BB album. I've incorporated this into the article. Anazgnos 17:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Samples
Not sure how to go about it, but if someone wants to add a section identifying samples used, an article on the track 3-Minute Rule which has been redirected here suggests that the following samples were used in that track's creation.


 * "Poet" by Sly & the Family Stone, from the album There's a Riot Goin' On. (Epic Records, 1971)
 * "Take the Money and Run" by Steve Miller, from the album Fly Like an Eagle. (Capitol Records, 1976)
 * "Brave and Strong" by Sly & the Family Stone, from the album There's a Riot Goin' On. (Epic Records, 1971)

No sources for the information were available so I haven't added it straight in. Hiding Talk 12:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * All of these "samples" are clear fancruft... I would suggest that all of the song info be deleted the way that was done with the "3-Minute Rule", as dealt with in this vote on articles for deletion. -- Dyslexic agnostic 00:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
 * There was no consensus at that afd. Whether the samples are fancruft or pertinent information is certainly the point I was seeking debate on. Hiding Talk 20:04, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Paul's Boutique
I remember this coofee shop was still on ludlow about a year ago but last time I walked by over there I don't remember having seen it.. I will check again to give an update. 66.65.77.37 (talk) 22:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Critical reception at the time it came out?
I could have sworn that the critics weren't impressed with Paul's Boutique at the time it came out. I remember a couple of reviews saying something along the lines of the album not being very coherent and not really going anywhere. Does anyone remember?

Of course, today everyone including myself realizes this album is a classic.

- From what I remember reading in a Beastie Boy book, the 'thunder' behind the release of Paul's Boutique was kinda stolen by De La Souls album "Three Feet High and Rising" which came out just a few weeks before. 216.232.84.239 (talk) 19:09, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

People were also disappointed that it's style was a complete 180 from the frat boy jams, as well as their Run-DMC-inspired flow becoming much smoother. Today of course, it's viewed as one of the most important albums of all time, but back then they just wanted more songs about partying set to Jam Master Jay-sounding beats.--Freepablo 03:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Remastered 20th Anniversary Edition
Something should be added to the article about the re-release of this album for the 20th Anniversary. The tracks have all been remastered. See the link below as a reference: http://paulsboutique.beastieboys.com/purchase/index.html --- Richbramlett (talk) 13:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hidden tracks + (A) Year and a Day
I removed the reference to hidden tracks in "B-Boy Bouillabaisse" - it's clearly a suite and the tracks are its subsections. The article itself states elsewhere that this track is a suite, so it was contradicting itself.

I also corrected the name of "Year and a Day" to "A Year and a Day" as both allmusic.com and discogs.com have this name now. I don't know whether it had the article before or not, but it clearly has it in the 20th Anniversary Edition, and that's arguably the definitive version of the album for now. 195.206.112.113 (talk) 09:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
 * The name of the article for "A Year and a Day" is still "Year and a Day." It probably should be changed to the correct name (assuming that it is correct, of course), but I don't know how to do that. On the other hand - do we really need separate articles for every song of the album? All they contain is a list of samples and links to references. Maybe it would be better to compile all that into one article?

195.206.112.113 (talk) 11:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I added a small quote from rolling stone's August 10th review of PB; hope it's what people deem appropriate however, I'm having trouble figuring out how to do footnotes so if somebody wants to footnote this http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/117996/review/5942329/paulsboutique then I would be more than grateful —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.162.192.64 (talk) 15:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

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What does this mean?
"With the 2009 album re-release, the photo was remastered." How do you remaster a photo? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.89.4 (talk) 02:53, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Possible source nuggets in this
This is KEXP's show that plays all the samples they used on the album. Mixcloud.com/kexp/to-all-the-girls 68.41.184.209 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:02, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

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Great article!
I didn’t review it for errors and style, but that was a fun read. Kudos. That man from Nantucket (talk) 13:48, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

"was recorded over two years at Matt Dike's apartment and the Record Plant in Los Angeles.?"
You have from 88 - 89 that it was recorded, wouldn't it be from 87 - 89? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:554E:7801:98E8:7813:506B:5093 (talk) 06:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Make separate Wikipedia articles for each song in Boutique and/or Ill
Two non-single tracks (Car Thief and 3-Minute Rule) have gained seperate articles. So I think that this legendary album should have all of it's tracks should gain seperate articles.

-- noofus  talk  12:26, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Label Info
I noticed that the entry didn't show the Label info (Capitol Records), so I added it. Before my edit, it displayed:
 * Label      Pauls Boutique jumpers were later made in America in the 21st Century. With massive sales in America they Came in the United Kingdom were there were massive sales in bags jewellery and of course the jumpers.

I left it in there because it wasn't displaying anyways and I had no idea what it was/why it was there.

MSFT (talk) 05:26, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Great article Momma&#38;Daddy (talk) 04:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)