Talk:Paul Brown

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Would someone tell the schmuck who continually refers to Ohio State as THE Ohio State University that he is incorrect. The only people who use this term are the arrogant fans and alumni of OSU--thus that makes it a violation of NPOV.

I don't know about that. All of the colleges copyright notices include the word "the" before Ohio State. The Ohio State University's logo actually includes the word "The" as well. The Ohio State University — Official website Giddeanx (talk) 18:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Southern Manifesto
I do not understand why Paul Brown is included in this category. The Southern Manifesto was a document denouncing 'Brown vs Board of Education', signed by some Southern Congressmen and Senators. The only things I am aware of connecting Paul Brown to this subject are his name (coincidence) and that he helped end the color line in pro football. Is there something that directly connects him to the battle to desegregate schools?Clubiguana 05:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)Clubiguana

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Naming of the Browns
Two of the paragraphs in here conflict each other on the naming of the Browns. The second to last in the Ohio State part, and the first one in the Cleveland Browns Part. Rkrgoat (talk) 17:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The former paragraph also appears in Cleveland Browns. I've added a tag to call attention to the contradiction. White 720 (talk) 03:16, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Wiseguy007 07:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC) The Cleveland Browns page is the most accurate concerning the history of the team's name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns#Founding_and_success_in_the_AAFC_.281944.E2.80.9349.29). Contrary to popular belief, the team was not named after Paul Brown and it is incorrectly stated that it is on the Paul Brown page.

Huh
What are you people talking about? 75.150.195.49 (talk) 20:41, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Infobox
The part of the infobox that lists his former teams says he was a player, not a coach. Somebody should probably fix that. 67.161.188.134 (talk) 23:44, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Criticisms
1) you left out http://nypl.bibliocommons.com/item/show/10675453052_pb,_the_paul_brown_story not a good job there; that's a published work - this alone should not make it a good article
 * This is an autobiography, and as such is a WP:PRIMARY source. Wikipedia policy generally prefers secondary sources over primary ones except for with straightforward statements of fact and such. It wasn't necessary to use this source here, since there are plenty of secondary sources that cover all the relevant material. --Batard0 (talk) 06:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

2) oh my goodness, where is this book in this article: * When Pride Still Mattered, A Life of Vince Lombardi, by David Maraniss, 1999, ISBN 978-0-618-90499-0 ....strong evidence is produced by Maraniss that Brown was in fact the catalyst for Lombardi developing his football strategy from Paul Brown
 * Can you cite that? Or better yet, just edit the article to include it? Lombardi never coached under Brown as far as I'm aware, but if there's some connection that's traceable to a reliable source, put it in please. --Batard0 (talk) 06:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

3) oh my, please reevaluate Piascik's book, clearly he is saying Brown is the greatest football coach of all time
 * Where is he or anyone else saying this? I think the article needs to be more balanced to cover the negative aspects of Brown's career, but we need to do this using reliable sources. --Batard0 (talk) 06:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

4) oh my, where is this book? : * Ratterman, George; with Deindorfer, Robert G. (1962). Confessions of a Gypsy Quarterback; Inside the Wacky World of Pro Football. New York: Coward-McCann, Inc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.13 (talk) 02:28, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:PRIMARY. It could be included if it has some good facts that can't be found elsewhere, but if not we should probably stick to the secondary sources. Definitely edit to include it if it does. --Batard0 (talk) 06:17, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Jim Brown
Massively complicated stuff there. I do not think it is treated that well in this article. I certainly do not believe it is GA stuff, that being said, it's a very, very, very complicated issue. 66.234.33.13 (talk) 02:32, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you edit the article to improve the coverage of this, using reliable sources? --Batard0 (talk) 06:18, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Failure to account for Jim Brown
A failure in this article to account for how Paul Brown dealt with Jim Brown's perspective on race relations during his career will prohibit this article from ever being considered FA. I am sorry. 66.234.33.13 (talk) 02:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be helpful to be more specific here, or better yet to just improve the article yourself. --Batard0 (talk) 06:19, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 02:25, 30 April 2016 (UTC)