Talk:Paul Goodman

Page history situation
The current page history situation, with the Paul Goodman page containing a draft that was worked on in userspace by Czar from 2013 to 2019 and containing the pre-rewrite text, strikes me as more than a little dishonest and highly unusual. I'd like to do some history merges/splits to make it a bit more reflective of how the article actually developed in the main namespace. For example, this edit does not show the beginnings of an article about Paul Goodman and it takes quite a bit of traipsing through page history and logs to figure out what actually happened. I would do the following:
 * Move all history from before the page was moved to userspace to a separate location, probably eventually Paul Goodman (writer)
 * History merge all the edits currently at Paul Goodman (writer) to Paul Goodman, so all the edits in the main namespace relating to this person are in one place.
 * Move Talk:Paul Goodman (writer) to be an archive of this page.

While Czar there's only one edit in the userspace history not made by you, it's only an AWB edit that had nothing to do with the final main namespace product, so we won't be losing any vital authorship info by doing things this way. Unless you object (or you want to try changing it yourself as an admin), I'd like to do the page history changes I've described above, but I'm asking first because of how unusual this situation is. It wouldn't be impossible to reverse the history splitting once I'd done it, but I'd prefer not to have to do that. I found out about this situation while checking out the Paul Goodman page history after this article by Ted Gioia. This situation led me to do an uncontroversial history merge at Paul Goodman (politician). Graham 87 04:44, 20 February 2023 (UTC)


 * @Graham87, feel free to merge as you see fit. I wrote from scratch so there is no shared history. czar  05:10, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks, all done. Graham 87 05:39, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

"Libertarian" and "Decentralist"
Reading the article, I've come across what appears to be a frequent vacilating between describing the politics of Goodman as analogous to that of modern libertarian politics in the United States and that of bog-standard Anarchism (social anarchism, to be clear). This appears to be, at most generous, a misunderstanding by some past editor of the change in usage of "libertarian" in the US, where the association between libertarianism and socialism held until the 1970s, but I find the use of "decentralist" as indicative of past editors desire to "claim" him as "one of theirs". Is this switching of terminology intentional? 129.82.95.78 (talk) 19:04, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Death
Not a peep about his death? 32.209.69.24 (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


 * There's some info at the end of Paul Goodman. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:00, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Under "Social criticism". I broke it out.  Thanks.     32.209.69.24 (talk) 01:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There's no reason to break it out. It naturally follows that the last sentences in the Life section would be about his death. czar  03:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Ridiculous. That section is "Social criticism".  How does it naturally follow that the last sentences in the Social criticism section would be about his death ...?  I'll wait.  Thanks.     32.209.69.24 (talk) 05:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The section is "Life" and the subsection is on the "Social criticism" era of his life. It ends with his death. This is common for biography sections. His death doesn't warrant a separate section. czar  11:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)


 * So, you either did not see my question or you affirmatively chose to ignore it. Which?  I will assume good faith.  (Wink, wink.) I will repeat my question.  How does it naturally follow that the last sentences in the Social criticism section would be about his death ...?  I will also answer my own question (to help you out, here):  It makes absolutely no sense to include the details of his death under a section called "Social criticism".  Once again, I will break it out.  Thanks for playing.      32.209.69.24 (talk) 00:44, 9 May 2024 (UTC)