Talk:Paul Gosar

Biased wording in the lede, a rehash
Sometime between the end of November and today, someone reverted all the consensus building that went into making the lede as non-biased as possible, reverting the paragraph about the Attack on Titan parody to a state that made no mention of the clip:


 * Being animated
 * Containing fantasy elements (giants)
 * The specifics of the violence presented (killing one, attacking another)

I have since restored it to a late-November version. It is our duty to present an accurate portrayal of events, and the removal of these elements creates inherent bias. It doesn't matter that two serve to vindicate the subject and one serves to condemn him, it's not a balancing act. These elements are all too important to remove simply for the sake of conciseness. -- sarysa (talk) 19:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Looks like a mass archive just happened. The prior discussions I'm referring to (and that I referred to in my edit note) are in Archive 1. -- sarysa (talk) 18:28, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Is he--or anybody--really "against immigration"?
The lede says point blank that he's "against immigration." Put that way, the statement is just too preposterous to believe. He might believe there should be some rules about immigration, and some control over it. But against immigration? That's far too unlikely to believe. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * He stated that he wants to ban all immigration to the United States, please read the source before calling it "preposterous." Bill Williams 04:29, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I did. He wanted to stop it for a time. OK, preposterous was too strong a word.  But it's still not "against immigration." Uporządnicki (talk) 16:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Tweet about uvalde school shooter
I've read many reports about Paul tweeting a rumor that the Uvalde school shooter was an "leftist transgender illegal immigrant". This could get mentioned somewhere in the article JayBirdtyper (talk) 01:11, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * It’s currently included in the article - in the “U.S. House of Representatives” section, under the 2022 heading. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 01:28, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2022
[Category:Alt-right politicians]] 2601:184:C401:AC60:648A:8A29:122A:772 (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: They are not listed anywhere in the article as being "Alt-right" Terasail [✉️] 00:03, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2023
In the first sentence of this Wikipedia article, Gosar is labeled “far right”. This is a biased opinion and not a statement of fact.

Additionally, the first paragraph states “ Gosar's support of conspiracy theories[4][5] and alleged ties to the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, and Holocaust deniers have sparked controversy.” This should be in a subsection, not the introduction. It should also be accompanied immediately by evidence in support of these biased claims and allegations.

Joe Biden’s introductory paragraph does not reference, let alone give credit to the validity of the rape allegations against him from Tara Reade. And rightfully so. Such information should be provided in a subsection with relevant sources immediately provided Chadb112007 (talk) 16:55, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. Changes of this sort will certainly be contentious. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:58, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Agree -- if this article has "far right" in the first line, AOC's should have "far left" as multiple sources have labeled her as such as well. Either way, it seems biased/opinion to include "far" in front of left/right to describe a politician. CharlesBluth (talk) 22:12, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia summarizes what reliable sources say, and many reliable sources describe Gosar as far right. As for AOC, Talk: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is the place for that discussion. Cullen328 (talk) 22:57, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Why does this article use the term "rightwing", currently? "Right wing" can easily be interpreted in multiple ways, is he conservative, libertarian, nationalist, etc.? More precise language can help the reader concisely learn about Gosar in a way that the present verbiage does not allow. AKA Casey Rollins Talk With Casey 03:50, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

This is a very biased, one sided post
Too many descriptors indicating bias 98.1.39.242 (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not have "posts". And something is not biased just because it is negative. Facts can be negative. 25stargeneral (talk) 04:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Update
He votes with Biden 5.3% of the time as of January 1st 2023 2600:4041:452B:FA00:28EC:7FE:384B:958C (talk) 23:10, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Post contains a lie
Paul Gosar did not vote to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Please correct the wording. 69.121.161.249 (talk) 19:58, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * He did, and we won't ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 20:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * He most certainly did. See https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/07/us/elections/electoral-college-biden-objectors.html HelperHelper1 (talk) 12:09, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Brnovich caption
The caption for the screenshot is pretty egregiously wrong. It mixes up Mark Brnovich (then-incumbent AG) and his wife, Susan Brnovich (AZ district court judge), to claim that Gosar tried to pressure a federal judge. It's obvious that Gosar was tweeting at Mark, he tags "@GeneralBrnovich." Cheesylameradish (talk) 16:01, 8 October 2023 (UTC)


 * this should be a semi-protected edit request but I'm not sure how to do the inline code Cheesylameradish (talk) 16:06, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Good spot. I've edited it. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 16:11, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Cheesylameradish (talk) 00:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Russia/Putin affiliation
The lede as of now states Gosar has defended Russian president Vladimir Putin and publicized pro-Russian propaganda. At a minimum, more sourcing for this statement than one opinionated article may be necessary. This appears consistent with concerns for reputable sourcing already expressed surrounding this article.

It may also be beneficial to expand on details about Gosar's pro-Russian record/agenda in the body. 2600:1700:FD0:E200:E4B5:334F:73AC:1D8E (talk) 13:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've removed it. It hinges entirely on one opinion piece and is not mentioned at all in the body. I wouldn't mind if someone added a section on any comments Gosar has made on this topic but it doesn't feel due for the lede and I can't find many sources. ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 14:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Julian Assange
On 13 Dec 2023, Goser sponsored Resolution 934, proposing to drop all charges against Assange. I think you should put this at the top of the article.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/934/text 2603:7000:D03A:5895:A775:A791:5704:2A29 (talk) 12:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)