Talk:Paul Judge/Archives/2012

Two people are conflated here?
It appears that this article is about two different people - Sir Paul Judge (UK) has a profile similar to what follows (copied from http://www.cimtech.org/cimtech2005/profiles/judge.htm).

Sir Paul is currently Chairman of the Royal Society of Arts, of the Businessdynamics Trust and of the British-North American Committee, President of the Chartered Management Institute and of the Association of MBAs, Deputy Chairman of the American Management Association and a Trustee of the Royal Institution. His marketing affiliations include being Master of the Worshipful Company of Marketors and a Vice President of the CIM and of the Marketing Council. He is a Director of Standard Bank Group Ltd of South Africa, of Tempur-Pedic International Inc of Kentucky, and of the Schroder Income Growth Fund plc of London.

He was an Open Scholar at Trinity College, Cambridge and a Thouron Fellow at the Wharton Business School, University of Pennsylvania, where he gained his MBA. He spent thirteen years with Cadbury Schweppes plc, becoming Managing Director of Cadbury Schweppes Kenya and of Cadbury Typhoo and then Group Planning Director. He subsequently led the buyout of the UK, French and Irish food companies of Cadbury Schweppes to form Premier Brands Ltd which was successfully sold in 1989. He then became a government-appointed Member of the Milk Marketing Board, Chairman of Food from Britain, Director General of the Conservative Party, a Ministerial Adviser at the UK Cabinet Office, a Director of the Boddington Group plc and of WPP plc and the key benefactor of the Judge Institute of Management at the University of Cambridge.

The Dr. Paul Q. Judge subsequently discussed seems to be involved in tech/security, so it appears that they are two different people.

Dr. Paul Q. Judge currently serves as Chief Technology Officer for CipherTrust, Inc., the global market leader in messaging security. Joining CipherTrust in 2000, Dr. Judge manages all CipherTrust research, advanced product development and product management, and is the lead inventor for CipherTrust’s patent-pending security technologies. Prior to joining CipherTrust, Dr. Judge worked with IBM and NASA. With 10 patents pending and one patent granted, and having been named to MIT's list of the top 100 young innovators in the world in 2003, he has spearheaded multiple research initiatives and is one of the founders of the Internet Research Task Force's Anti-Spam Research Group. Dr. Judge is a recognized authority on messaging security issues, having authored numerous papers that have been published in leading academic journals, presented at multiple industry and academic conferences including COMDEX, Interop, Inbox, RSA and Infosecurity, and featured in hundreds of national media outlets including CNN, Forbes, Business Week, People Magazine and the LA Times. Dr. Judge received his Ph.D. and M.S. from Georgia Tech, and his B.S. from Morehouse College.

Not personally knowing either, I would hesitate to update the article text myself, but hopefully someone can clarify this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.61.48 (talk) 15:09, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Recent edits
I have removed massive amounts of unsourced content, please do not reinsert it without citations. Darkness Shines (talk) 22:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Some of that which has been deleted can be supported by the biography at the Wharton web site . Much of it may have derived or been copied from the subject's website, not an objective source. The Wharton content suggests a reasonable compromise between the plumped up and pared down versions. It would also serve to explain notability, which is not too apparent from the article in its current form. 76.248.147.199 (talk) 23:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Other sources: ; ; ; and, though I don't know if this is considered reliable, . 76.248.147.199 (talk) 23:26, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Darkness Shines:

Why have you removed such a massive amount of material? Most of it has been on Wikipedia for several years. I am surprised that you have done this without contacting me.

If anyone can just remove material as you have done from a Wikipedia article then this smacks of a Stalinist approach. Surely the proper way to proceed is to approach the person who submitted the information and seek to get clarification.

If I want to complain about what you have done, who should I contact?

217.34.111.145 (talk) 16:10, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I removed it because it is policy WP:BLP. All of it can be restored, it is in the edit history, but inline citations must be added at the same time. You can report my actions at WP:ANI if you wish Darkness Shines (talk) 16:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * There's nothing 'Stalinist' about the reversion of unsourced content, though there is something to be said for notifying previous contributors. Although I found the deletion of content too sweeping, and believe that an attempt to preserve a basic biographical structure, with a minimum of effort to procure sources and cites, is preferable to a nearly total filleting, there's no need to file a complaint. What's left is to reconstruct the article with citations that verify content. 76.248.147.199 (talk) 18:08, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've restored much of the biography along with a section of sources which corroborates much of what's there. The content appears to be largely non-controversial, if rather in need of copy editing and trimming and the addition of inline cites. 76.248.147.199 (talk) 22:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)