Talk:Paul Rémy

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0  13:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Paul Remy → Paul Rémy – per "best such source for that context." Here is an interesting example of why Google Books' OCR capability shouldn't be used to remove accents from European names. Here New Yorker Website Archives 07 August 1957 article searches on page 80 for "Frenchman-the short, stocky Paul Rémy, who comes from Algiers.." but Google Books OCR searchs on "short, stocky Paul Remy," OCR having dropped the New Yorker's accent (the same is found with "French apéritifs" in the same article between the original New Yorker, vs. Google OCR "aperitifs"). In any case, this requested move is not going by the "majority" of otherwise reliable English sources, since as category:Living people shows en.wikipedia's European bios do not follow the type limitations of the "majority" of English language sources, but instead go by the "best such sources" as found in Definition of 'reliable source': "The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made and is the best such source for that context." Note that WP:FRMOS agrees with WP:IRS (while with the current edits at WP:DIACRITICS are ambiguous, reflecting in part edits on use of majority sources contrary to where en.wikipedia.org articles actually are). Note also that Paul Rémy is almost the last West-European BLP (non-WP:STAGENAME, non-monarch, non-ß) with an anglicized "English name" spelling on en.wikipedia.org; cf. Rémy (name) but any name will do... In ictu oculi (talk) 05:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support I think the recent move of Marek Hrivík is pushing us towards a general policy of using diacritics that are actually part of a person's name. Why we ever did otherwise is beyond me. --BDD (talk) 19:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per ITF, Davis Cup, Sports Illustrated, NY Times, etc... his common English playing name was Paul Remy. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:IRS also note that the idea of using second rate sourcing to establish the common name of a tennis player [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMakeSense64%2FTennis_names&diff=496631631&oldid=495920798 was rejected by the community] Agathoclea (talk) 11:48, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The English sourcing is just fine but using a minor personal essay debate on removal of all English sources hardly qualifies as "the community." Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:55, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support per correct spelling and wikipedia's encyclopedic ambition. HandsomeFella (talk) 10:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support per all above.-- GoP T C N 19:05, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support, in accordance with giving greater weight to the best and most reliable sources, as is appropriate for an encyclopedia that aspires to be a scholarly source. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 02:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.