Talk:Paul Williams (journalist)

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This article was created by moving text on Paul Williams by user JimWae. Spalding 13:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

I removed the "primary source" tag that was applied today because it uses the official site as a source, which is implicitly cited per guidelines by being included as an external link. Spalding 18:29, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * But the official website is a primary source. The tag requested non-primary sources, which all articles should have. Lupin|talk|popups 21:23, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I missed that. How about something like this?:http://www.laweekly.com/ink/02/30/is-bemis3.php Spalding 21:40, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Sourcing
The material in this article is basically correct, though it needs better sourcing. I have access to much of the documentary material (plus copies of Crawdaddy!, Williams' books, etc.). I will try to get to the sourcing shortly.

Also, unless he just moved, Williams lives in Encinitas, CA, not San Diego. He may have lived in San Diego for a little while a couple of years ago. --Pleasantville 19:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I added the following from interview with and personal knowledge of Paul. It was later removed because of poor sourcing.

"Williams was Timothy Leary's campaign manager in his unsuccessful campaign against Ronald Reagan for the Governorship of California. Whilst traveling around with Leary they visited John Lennon and Yoko in their "bed in" in Canada, and Williams can be clearly seen on Lennon's "Give Peace a Chance" video made at the time."

It is however essentially true to my knowledge and Paul can certainly be seen on the video. He did live in San Diego with Cindy last time I was in contact (2006). I will try to confirm this. I knew Paul well for ten years over which period we ran the PKD Society.

Keith Bowden


 * It is true. Can we find a reference that meets Wikipedia standards? --Pleasantville 22:33, 9 October 2007 (UTC) aka Kathryn Cramer, wife of former Crawdaddy reviewer & columnist David G. Hartwell

Hello Kathryn and David, It seems that a viewing of the Give Peace a Chance video is not enough. I have Leary's autobiography. I will check it out. I also have the unpublished 2 hour taped interview with Paul from some 20 years ago covering this era in detail. Maybe we should try to publish it. It is a unique document and I feel guilty keeping it in my cupboard all these years! Keith Bowden

Created "Association with Philip K. Dick" section & comment on difference of publisher attributions, self-publication, Crawdaddy online
I intend to flesh this section out to make it deserving of a section. It will include significant highlights including authorship of the 1975 Rolling Stone article which is widely credited with introducing Dick to a large segment of the general US population, publication of only mainstream PKD novel published during his lifetime and acting as literary executor of PKD's estate for roughly a decade. This is not the only section that should be created to cover the career and life of Paul Williams to present but it is the one I have the sources at hand to adequately edit. I would think there should be sections on Journalism, Publishing, Writing, Activism (not necessarily with those awkward titles, of course) and other subjects for a proper article.

Williams engaged in small press publishing and books I cite here may differ from first publication publishers because I have mass market copies. I trust any possible concerns about self-published sources will be allied by the later publication by other publishers and common sense. Crawdaddy online is not self-publication. Williams is mentioned there because he founded the original magazine, revived it for a second print incarnation and the online version is published by person or corporation that bought the name from him for a third incarnation. He may have contributed some original material to it (I haven't checked that) but hasn't been editor of it or actively involved so far as I know though on the talk page I think it is OK to state it seems likely his decision to sell the name for a new incarnation was probably dependent on his sense of what the online publication would be like, not just a commercial decision. Refrigerator Heaven (talk) 09:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Neil Young: Love To Burn ISBN #
For Neil Young: Love To Burn: London, New York, Paris, Sydney: Omnibus Press. ISBN 0-934558-19-1 (1997) I used the ISBN in a library copy pasted over what seems to be a different ISBN (or an ISBM?) and an Order Number. I don't know the reason the library did this but the covered number seems to start ISBM not ISBN and may be due to this copy being printed in the United Kingdom and perhaps some change taking place at the time related to cataloging. Refrigerator Heaven (talk) 09:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 27 June 2015

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: Moved. Natg 19 (talk) 03:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Paul Williams (Crawdaddy! creator) → Paul Williams (music journalist) – better disambiguation. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 04:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC) 86.28.151.70 (talk) 00:01, 27 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Support I suspect that for many the current title will not so much supply information as raise questions. GregKaye 16:40, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Support That is a more appropriate title rather than just being known as the Crawdaddy creator. 2601:8C:4004:489C:344C:5793:3332:E0D0 (talk) 16:33, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


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