Talk:Pawnee people

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 * hi 73.252.168.206 (talk) 23:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Untitled
moving the language to Pawnee language --babbage 11:23, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've made a slight alteration to the "Political Structure" section, changing the entry from matriarchal to matrilineal and providing more information about the roles of men in the tribe to more fully flesh out the political organization. Stone put to sky 06:35, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Stone put to sky

A very small discrepancy
The lead-in to the article puts the population at 2,500 in 2005. The paragraph down-page says 2002. --Chris 14:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

"related groups" info removed from infobox
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all Infobox Ethnic group infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

informative
i like this article it has helped me and my friend out when we wur workin on my social studies project —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.165.112.69 (talk) 19:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

How did the Pawnee diet consist of bacon and oil, historically? Both would've been procured from whites, since I'm not aware of wild pigs being present in Nebraska in any quantity, or anywhere else in the US, until they were introduced from Eurasia or escaped from farms in the 19th C. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.102.240.150 (talk) 17:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Bad Press
It is quite interesting to see the unfavorable portraits of the Pawnee in fiction. While the Morning Star Ritual is an unattractive feature of their history it doesn't like enough to create the almost relentless anti-Pawnee thinking seen in "Dances with Wolves" and "Little Big Man" among other works. I know that the Pawnee were used as generic "bad guys" in some of the western novels of my youth as well as those films.

I think this is partly due to the glamorous portrayals of the Lakota and thus the demonization of their enemies. Also, the Pawnee sometimes guided and/or sided with the U.S. Cavalry. But both those factors, including riding with Custer, can also be attributed to the Crow and the Crow don't get the bad press the Pawnee do. 76.28.103.69 (talk) 04:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)Will in New Haven76.28.103.69 (talk) 04:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

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Pawnee of note
It says he was the first Native American elected to statewide office. This appears to be incorrect. Charles Curtis, of Kaw, Osage and Pottawatomie, and European descent, was popularly elected a US Senator from Kansas in 1920 and 1926, and elected Vice-President on a ticket with Herbert Hoover in 1928.--Parkwells (talk) 04:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment pulled from main page for cleaning up and getting refs
the StoneWolf and Grill and the pawnee Trading Post Casino. The pawnee’s government has made a Campaign For education, Health and welfare of the pawnee’s members.(h) They have a ritual named Trails of tears From Nebraska to Oklahoma where they were exiled.(I) At 1780 they were like 10,000 habitants.In the 1840 they were reduced because of the European diseases, alcohol and the war with other tribes the reduced into 4,500.(R) The women raised corn, squash and beans. (o) Women were active participants with trade relations, not only in producing goods and in controlling the distribution of the surplus within and beyond the tribe. (from User:189.216.221.56)

-Uyvsdi (talk) 01:50, 10 November 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Pawnee lodge photo
Information I have on the old photo is this:

Village of the Pawnee at Loup Forks, Nebraska, 1870 Can be located at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ne/county/nance/ff100y/ffoy001a.html KSRolph (talk) 04:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Ex links and further reading culled from front page
The list of external links was far longer than necessary, so I'll put the ones I pulled from the article here:
 * Mark Van De Logt. War Party in Blue: Pawnee Scouts in the U.S. Army (University of Oklahoma Press; 2010) 368 pages; examines the key role of Pawnee scouts in U.S. Army campaigns between 1864 and 1877.
 * The Pawnee; mythology (Part I) Collected under the auspices of the Carnegie Institution of Washington, by George A. Dorsey, 1906. (a searchable facsimile at the University of Georgia Libraries; DjVu & layered PDF format)
 * "The Indigenous Maps and Mapping of North American Indians"
 * Gene Weltfish Pawnee Field Notes at Newberry Library

-Uyvsdi (talk) 18:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Recent changes
I've reverted changes made by some ip editors. The content added was not supported by the sources in the sections and the errors in punctuation and capitalization were many. Vsmith (talk) 13:59, 14 September 2015 (UTC) Reverted back to 21 August - more Australian ip changes. Vsmith (talk) 14:11, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

The origin of their name
Usually articles like this give the origin of the name but I don't see it here. If I'm not mistaken, the name comes from the French Canadians, who had taken the original name from one of the Siouan tribes. Maybe omebody can find a source?

Also, the lead section has a couple of (I think) contradictory parts. One sentence has, "the Pawnee people refer to themselves as Parikitaru...," but that is followed by the last sentence which reads, "Their autonym is Chahiksichahiks...," which seems contradictory. Hopefully someone knows the answer. __209.179.36.56 (talk) 04:34, 18 September 2016 (UTC)


 * I second this motion; what does "Pawnee/Panis" mean, and who pinned this label on the Parikitaru? Article is silent on this crucial point. Laodah 03:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)