Talk:Pay It Forward (film)

"Pay It Forward" movement
I think something should be added about the "Pay It Forward" movement, which I relate to being much like the Free/Open Source Software movements -- where people just all make contributions to the community, and there's this underlying hope that those who benefit, will pass along the benefit to others. http://www.payitforwardfoundation.org/
 * There's a page devoted to the concept of Pay it Forward itself (rather than just the movie). The Pay it Forward Foundation would probably be better suited being mentioned there.  With the additional page about the concept, this page really should be more about the movie itself. --Forgottenlord 03:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

This Article Reads Like a Press Release
It describes characters as "chock-full of worries", "classic deadbeats" and "big-hearted", and describes plot events like "looking out the window of his lower-class Nevada home to see a bleak horizon".

These are all Hollywood buzzwords to make a movie seem more interesting. It is not actual information about the film. It also doesn't describe important plot events such as when Arlene and Eugene get together, and then Trevor finds out and says that it's now Eugene's turn to pay it forward. It prefers not to divulge anything juicy about the film, since if someone were to read it, then they wouldn't need to see the movie.

This article is meant to be a thorough description of the movie, including full plot and cast. It's not meant to boost home video sales. I'll be attempting to rehabilitate this article and make it genuinely informative.


 * I have now reverted the article to the last edit before it was vandalised into a press-release. I say 'vandalised' because it was definitely done by a vandal, the person who did it replaced the word 'pay' with 'kill' in the edit before. Abc30 23:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Would someone do it soon? This blurb is boring and makes what was an intriguing movie seem like a made for TV mid afternoon drama ho hum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.49.212.84 (talk) 21:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Line
Would a sort of family-tree of the Pay it Forward movement within this movie be useful? I.e. A did something nice for B, B for C, etc. Elizabennet 22:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes I think this would be very helpful to the movie's plot. Wolfdog 20:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation
This article and the one that describes the philosophy are distinguished only by capitalization. One or the other should be renamed, and disambiguation links added to the head of each. I've added the links, but leave it to consensus to decide which should be renamed. --Bdoserror 22:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Removed Syney Rice
I've removed the section "Syney Rice" as it didn't seem to have a point relevant to the movie. Maybe a copyedit and proper placement would make it more relevant. Here's the orignial:

He was the Gangster in the movie Pay it Forward. He was a crip. After he claimed to be on his way to church and getting attacked by 5 bloods (he really was stealing a stereo and was being chased by the cops), A homeless lady came by in her car and helped him get away. After she told him about Paying it Forward he later on helped out someone else. After being stabbed by his sister he let someone else go first into the emergency. The girls father then pays it forward by giving away his brand new Jaguar to Chris and this is where it shows the movie started.

Trevor's Three

 * Who specifically were Trevor's three people who he chose to help? I am pretty sure it was Jerry, Mr. Simonet, and Adam. Is this true? Wolfdog 20:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

No it was Jerry, Mr. Simonet and Arlene

Correction: I believe it was Jerry, Mr. Simonet and Adam on his original list. Trevor has a discussion with Mr. Simonet and tells him how he failed Adam. Immediately prior to that discussion, the scene opens to Trevor sitting on bleachers loking over his list. He crosses each out, believin he has failed each one. The list is a tree structure, with Trevor as the parent node, and Jerry, Mr. Simonet and Adam as child nodes.Surferpup 23:47, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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Good
I love this movie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.129.202 (talk) 01:33, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Amazing
This movie was a real tearjerker! Amazing story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dropdeadleah (talk • contribs) 07:45, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Legacy Section
I think we need to add on a section about the films legacy - I know many teachers who use Pay It Forward as a teaching tool and last year I was assigned Trevor's assignment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.73.38.72 (talk) 03:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

--and on the note of a legacy section, there should be some documentation. The main article talks about Syracuse's residence hall association, which can only be assumed as a band of college kids, using a 'pay it forward' theme. Although it's hardly worth mentioning, to lack anything backing it, maybe press clippings or anything at all, it makes it all the more pointless. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.26.19.68 (talk) 09:37, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

The idea and term were the creation of Robert Heinlein - What about BEN?
The term was created by Robert Heinlein, the idea was first known to come from Benjamin Franklin - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_it_forward#History

I'm requesting that this be noted within this article or for a word change in the sentence. If no one opposes, I will modify the line from being:

The idea and term were the creation of Robert Heinlein.

To being:

The idea was first known to come from Benjamin Franklin while the term 'Pay it forward' was the creation of Robert Heinlein.

--Sc0ttkclark (talk) 19:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If there is no objection, I will change the wording this weekend. --Sc0ttkclark (talk) 15:37, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've made the change and added the reference as is shown in Pay_it_forward for Ben. --Sc0ttkclark (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Soundtrack
It turns out that the film's original soundtrack has made more waves, given that portions of it are often used (licensed for use) on television and radio, and that samples have found their way into numerous genre remixes. I have not seen and heard this happen as often with any other soundtrack music not meant as anything else than a movie soundtrack. -Mardus (talk) 02:17, 24 January 2014 (UTC)