Talk:Peace Arch

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If someone wrote an article on the Peace Arch Park, which certainly deserves one, then this article would no longer be an orphan. heidimo 02:37, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Now this article is no longer an orphan since it is linked from Sam Hill. heidimo 05:01, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * It's also linked from George Matheson Murray, who helped instigate its construction, and should anyone ever add mention of the various border demonstrations articles on Amchitka and various others will be linked.Skookum1 (talk) 14:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Included better photo
Hopefully this works for everybody. :: Colin Keigher 07:58, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, hm, CanEng vs USian....
Noting the reversion to the original Canadian English this article was written with, it's an interesting problem given the bi-national nature of this structure and its park....."first come gets to spell it" almost works as a principle...the clincher might be that its construction was instigated by Canadians....I just woke up gonna have to think about this but really needs a joint decision/input from WP:BC and WP:WA people, I think.....Skookum1 (talk) 19:01, 11 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the general process as I read it on WP:ENGVAR is:


 * If the article is about a subject with strong ties to a particular nation, that nation's variety should be used.
 * If not, if a consistent style has emerged in the article, use that.
 * Failing that, use the first variety to have been used in the article.


 * Number 1 doesn't apply here, because the article's ties to Canada and the US are equally strong. #2 does not apply, because there seemed to be a mix of Canadian ("honour") and US ("meter") variety. That leaves #3, the first variety used. Looking back to the very first edit of the article in 2003,, it was using the Canadian variety ("metres"), so I went with that.


 * I personally am in the US and ordinarily use US spelling, but it looks like Canadian is the way to go on this one. TJRC (talk) 19:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Category:Triumphal arches in the United States
The category Triumphal arches in the United States was removed from the article with the note Drop category not supported by article text. Isn't this supported by the text?

According to triumphal arch,
 * A triumphal arch is a monumental structure in the shape of an archway with one or more arched passageways, often designed to span a road.

The Peace Arch is a monumental structure ("The Peace Arch is a monument..."). Unless I misunderstand "passageway," it has a passageway and meets "has one or more arched passageways." It is not used to span a road, but as I read it that's not a requirement. So it seems to meet the requirement for a triumphal arch.

It's partially in the US, so it seems to meet "...in the United States" as well. True, it's not entirely in the U.S., but there are a number of other categories included based on its partial presence in a particular geography:
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Surrey, British Columbia
 * Category:Buildings and structures in Whatcom County, Washington
 * Category:Monuments and memorials in British Columbia
 * Category:Monuments and memorials in Washington (state)
 * Category:Buildings and structures on the National Register of Historic Places in Washington (state)
 * Category:Visitor attractions in Whatcom County, Washington.

On the other hand... Memorial gates and arches lists it as a memorial arch, and distinguishes the memorial arch from a triumphal arch (although allowing that a particular arch can be both). Is the triumphal arch definition not accurate? I am now not so clear on whether "triumphal arch" is an architectural term describing the architecture itself or the use of a simple adjective referring to the reason for the arch. TJRC (talk) 18:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

"built by Sam Hill"
I didn't know he actually built it himself, as that wording indicates. It's also not solely his instigation, BC politician George Matheson Murray was involved in its conception and execution, likely also the recruitment of Mr Hill to fund it (there were also Canadian industrialists who participated in the funding, as I recall, it was a joint project, not only by a USian); that's in his daughter's book about her parents The Newspapering Murrays" by Georgina Keddell. The actual contractor(s) who did'' build it are what the "built by" phrase should be about.Skookum1 (talk) 02:53, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

International Park?
I recommend removing this section from the article:

"The monument and surrounding park is considered an international park. As such, visitors do not require either a passport or visa to pass through their applicable border crossing so long as they stay within the boundaries of the park.[2]"

The site referenced no longer contains language to this effect. Also, I know from personal experience that it is incorrect, having driven to the Canadian side, parked, and walked back to the US. I had to show my passport to get back into Canada.

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Customs implications

 * "visitors do not require either a passport or visa to pass through their applicable border crossing so long as they stay within the boundaries of the park and leave the park into the country from which they entered the park"

Does this mean people visiting from either side mix freely within the park? If passports are not checked on the way back into the country someone entered from, what is to stop someone during a busy period entering from one country and exiting into the other as if they had come in that way? What is to stop items being handed over between US and Canadian park visitors so they can be brought across the border without customs checks? Beorhtwulf (talk) 21:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)