Talk:Pearly Kings and Queens

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''Some examples of cockney rhyming slang apples and pears ; stairs dog and bone ; phone skin and blister; sister (also glaswegian rhyming slang)''

This is Cockney rhyming slang. It doesn't belong in this article.

On another topic, I'm not sure this is the correct name for this article. Perhaps Pearly King would be better? But, the advantage of this name is that it is gender-inclusive. Andrewa 19:25, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Perhaps some redirects? From Pearly king and Pearly queen? An An 01:05, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

And Today
It's unclear to what extent such Pearly Kings and Queens exist today in London. Could someone write about that? Inter lingua talk 14:06, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

What are the reasons for the rivalries between the organisations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.7.236.163 (talk) 15:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Peckham FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

More Trivia
In December 1967, Paul McCartney of The Beatles and fiancée Jane Asher attended at the Magical Mistery Tour Party dressed as the Pearly King and the Pearly Queen. 80.32.117.89 (talk) 11:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Reliable sources
We have reliable sources for Croft as the first pearly king, but not for exactly how it started. It appears to point to the costermongers wearing the odd pearl button on their caps in order to achieve more sales and he adapted it for charitable collection, covering his whole suit. The three societies each tell a slightly different story on their websites, so I'm not sure we should be using them as reliable sources. MRSC (talk) 21:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * yes, I came to the article looking for the exact origin of the pearly suit. Two of the societies tell more or less the same story. The third (the Guild) appears no longer accessible. I've therefore put in the article the version from the 2 websites. There probably is a more authorative source out there and hopefully someone will update at some point. DeCausa (talk) 22:48, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Section
"Croft died in January 1930 and his funeral was attended by 400 followers from all over London,[1] receiving national media coverage.[4] In 1934 a memorial was unveiled to him in St Pancras Cemetery and at a speech to mark the occasion he was said to have raised £5,000 for those suffering in London's hospitals.[5] The statue was later moved to the crypt of St Martin-in-the-Fields, Westminster. The inscription reads: In memory of Henry Croft who died March 16th 1930 aged 68 years. The original Pearly King."

This needs to be rewritten. How can he have raised money if he was dead? How can a memorial be unveiled to him if he was dead? FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 18:05, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

"memorial was unveiled to him" is fine, follows contemporary standard British formal usage, at least as a possibility. Changed the "at a speech" to "in a speech".

Boynamedsue (talk) 07:01, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

Unsourced edit
An ip user (I assume it's the same person although the ip changes) has edited information three times contrary to the source given. I have reverted twice, what to do next please? Captainllama (talk) 02:36, 19 May 2017 (UTC)