Talk:Pedigree Dogs Exposed

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That means when an edit of your is challenged and the reason is given in the edit summary or on the talk page, that you are obligated to discuss the edit to arrive at concensus. For User:Dodo bird, this means discuss with other editors, not just yourself as you have done in the past. Your heavy handed editing style along with your total disregard for civility make your edits immediately susceptible to being reverted. It might come as a surprise to you, Dodo, but other people are more fluent in English and are better writers and editors than you, can use references as they are intended to be used, and can stick with NPOV text. If you are unwilling to meaningfully discuss your controversial edits they will be immediately reverted. Bob98133 (talk) 14:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Rhodesian Ridgeback edit
The edit that I have been reverting is badly written and gives undue weight to the Rhodesian Ridgeback Club. The fact that they call a report that criticizes them "absolute nonsense" is not encyclopedic. The fact that they say that it is OK to cull puppies is minimized in Dodo's edit, but since this is what they were criticized for in the program, it should be obvious in the text that they still allow puppy culling, except as noted by the change in their policies. There is no need for this section to go on and on. It is a simple refutation of the program. Bob98133 (talk) 14:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Copy of notice filed on Dodo-bird user page
Copy of notice filed on Dodo-bird user page (since he/she deletes all user talk): Please be advised that your disruptive and insulting editing style has been reported to Wiki administrators. You have violated the 3r rule repeatedly, refuse to discuss edits, shamelessly insert POV, and delete anything derogatory from your talk page, as well as previously redirecting your user/talk page to another Wiki article. [] Bob98133 (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Recent changes
In response to comments in the edit summary, I wrote the Content section to present what the program says rather than actual facts, so feel free to add "The program reported..." or similar language for the more contentious issues. I think issues about factual accuracy such as that of the Ridgeback should be in the Reaction section, rather than interwoven into the Content. Regarding tense, present tense sounds more right to me as the section is kind of like a running commentary of the program, but I don't really know which is more appropriate. --Dodo bird (talk) 05:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

tense
Unless this documentary has ceased to exist, or is only of historical importance, the present tense is better. Bob98133 (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

10 million pounds' worth of vet fees every week
About three-quarters of the 7 million dogs in the UK are pedigree breeds, and the programme revealed that they chalk up 10 million pounds' worth of vet fees every week. That actually works out to just under £100 per year per dog.--Dodo bird (talk) 03:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Reaction Section
Seems like the last three "reactions" to Pedigree Dogs Exposed have nothing to do with Pedigree Dogs Exposed except that they speak to the same subject. Why are these included when they may have no relationship whatsoever to the topic? Bob98133 (talk) 13:44, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

governing body & prestigious
Dodo - do you want to discuss this or shall I revert it again so that you can make the 3rd revert? Bob98133 (talk) 22:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Governing body - this is ridiculous and not supported by any connection to any government. You failed to answer my question about who elected them. Even they do not describe themselves this way.

Prestigious - using this word cannot be supported by references. If you choose to leave this in, it would be as valid to say that PETA or some other animal rights group describes the event as despicable. Bob98133 (talk) 22:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)


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 * In case it is not apparent, I really don't care much about your opinion. If an edit is bad, I'm going to remove it. You can go find someone to agree with you or you can try to get me blocked.--Dodo bird (talk) 01:11, 2 March 2010 (UTC)


 * It doesn't take much for you to get personal. You don't offer much to support your case. Perhaps governing body has some other usage in the UK that is not apparent from your edit in which case that should be noted. Prestigious has no meaning whatsoever in an encyclopedia. It means an ability to impress or influence and the population is not universally impressed or influenced by Crufts. Bob98133 (talk) 04:21, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Eugenics section
Only the first sentence of the Eugenics section explicitly mentions eugenics, the rest is about culling puppies. Perhaps there should be a sentence or two explaining the connection between the philosophy of eugenics and the practice of culling "unfit" puppies? Webbie1234 (talk) 03:59, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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