Talk:Pedubast II

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Pedubast II's Peers
Prof. Kenneth Kitchen, in his book, and in Table 23 B points out that a Tanite line of kings held on during The Saite Dynasty Twenty-Six as Tanis-with-Bubastis. He mentions that Sehetepibenre Pedubast II was interrupted in monumental work by his arrest by Assurbanipal. He lists the peers as possibly Gemenef-khons-Bak then P. II followed by Neferkare. Apparently Neferkare was associated with the early years of Psammetichos I. It is interesting to note that in Manetho (Eus.) ia a mention of 12 years for an Ammeris, the Ethiopian = Safelya Sabacon whereas in the Armenian version of Eusebius he is allotted 18 years. Slightly varying the usual chronological assumptions for Dynasty Twenty-Six and aligning the end of these reigns with the start of Nechepsus (in the Book of Sothis) we have -722 to -710 and -728 to -710.

By aligning Pedubast II to -722 as a start of rule we can see that Neferkare might have started before not after Pedubast II. His short association with Psammetichos I is reflected in the period -728 to -722 i.e. he commenced a rule in -728. The earliest start for Psammmetichos I must be -728. Gemenef-khons-Bak might have preceded Taharqa (II) whose long, possibly 70-year, reign ran from -737 to -667. This assumes some relations between Tanis-with-Bubastis and Nubia existed to facilitate such a co-ordination. Likewise Neferkare may have timed his rise to power in conjunction with the Nubian Ramhay Nastossanan's sed since he had no recorded contact with Assurbanipal. Even if he also ruled a long time as well he would only have ruled up to Awseyo Taracos' start in Nubia. This would mean that the newly-discovered Necho I donation stela was, through the Tanis-Nubian connection, a reflection of these events. It exactly mates up with the start of Taracos' time in Nubia.

Chronology assumptions revisited
We can establish the end and therefere the beginning of Dynasty Twenty-Six from classical sources notably Manetho, The Old Chronicle and Herodotus together with drift dates and Dr. Herman L. Hoeh's "Compendium". '''A basic assumption here is that Alexander the Founder is dated to -332. That will mean fifteen years prior is -347'''. The end of Book Three of Manetho is said to be -347. Subtract the coverage of the Book i.e. 1050 years to obtain -1397. This puts the Chronicle relating to Shebitku at -981. To connect some of the Israel dots at this point we might state the following; To maintain Manethonic relativity between Pepi II and Shebitku we are required to start their respective Yr. 2 and Yr. 3 drift counts from Nubkheperre's Yr.3 which is -1956. Since Nubkheperre commences his drift with Kenkenes of Dynasty One - he starts with a daisy-chain of Athothis in -2776, then we have a chain of aggression from a source which we could easily compare with the Greek Heracles.
 * Shebitku as the Shishak of Biblical reference was acting against Israel without occasion
 * Pepi II was a wicked prince opposed to Moses who had to die before Israel could be led forth
 * Nubkheperre Inyotef commenced the oppression of Israel in Egypt after Joseph no longer ruled.

Heracles figures in Egyptian history in the History of Herodotus. He asserts that 17,000 years elapsed to [the end] of Amasis - the Dyn. #26 ruler. "In fact however Heracles is a very ancient Egyptian god; and (as they say themselves) it is seventeen thousand years to the beginning of the reign of Amasis from the time when the twelve gods, of whom they count that Heracles is one, were begotten of the eight gods. To convert this (17000/235*19) we obtain 1374 years. Aristotle's "Politics" (see Dr. Herman L. hoeh) leads us to incorporate one more year or part thereof to Amasis. Taking the Heracles role as being adopted by all three of our unworthies above and subtracting 1374 from -1956 we get to -582 or -583 (above). So from Dr. Hoeh we can postulate a depopulation by Nebuchadnezzar et al over 7 to 8 years, 40 years of desolation for Egypt (minus Sebennytus), and 8 years to return under Persian 'law of return' policy.  This brings us to -527 and Persian rule in Egypt. The Old Chronicle now leads us to -347 from here and back to -716 as the Necho I start of Dynasty Twenty-Six.

A more reasonable start however, given Dr. Hoeh's identification of Jacob with Heracles would be -2009. His second year after Famine. Thus -635 becomes our start not end for Amasis. However he did not start ruling then but did start a joint-rule with Apries. This brings no alteration to Necho I's start of -716.