Talk:Peer-to-peer carsharing

Proposed renaming
We distinguish between Car rental and Car sharing based on the time of rental. So, would Peer-to-peer car sharing be the more appropriate title? MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 00:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Personal car sharing and peer to peer car sharing pertain to individually owned cars. Thus, the distinction here is based more on the ownership of the vehicle rather than the "time of rental". This is a niche under the topic car sharing. Car sharing encompasses all forms of car sharing (B2B and P2P car sharing). The public needs to be able to distinguish between B2B and P2P car sharing as it is a distinction that people understand and for which they are searching for in search engines. Therefore, whatever title distinguishes between B2B and P2P car sharing would be appropriate (e.g. personal car sharing or peer to peer car sharing, or neighbor to neighbor car sharing, or friend to friend car sharing, etc).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.42.89 (talk) 08:50, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * That makes sense, I didn't think of the ownership distinction. MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 03:00, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

RentMyCar.com: The First Peer to Peer Car Sharing
Relayrides.com is falsely informing the public that it is the first peer to peer car sharing marketplace. However, RentMyCar.com claims that right because RentMyCar's website was launched in 2001, which offered peer to peer car rentals. A whois and archive.org search will confirm this claim.


 * If this is true you should WP:CITE those sources. Unsourced claims get deleted.  MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 17:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

RentMyCar.com: Launch date May 2001

 * RentMyCar.com and RentMyCar.de were registered in 1999 and 2001. Both domains were pointed to the same website which is a peer-to-peer car sharing marketplace. RentMyCar migrated its services to the United States in 2007 with a new look and added features. Here is one of our articles posted back in 2003 pertaining to RentMyCar's peer to peer car sharing business model and 800 people that used the website: http://www.presseportal.ch/de/pm/100004626/100464165/rentmycar_gmbh_co_kg.

Here are two Archive.org pages witnessing our peer to peer car sharing business model back in 2001 for RentMyCar.com and RentMyCar.de:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://rentmycar.com

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://rentmycar.de

Here is an Archive.org page of RentMyCar that witnesses personally owned cars listed for rent by zip code, brand, model, price per day, which includes rental period and time. The peer to peer car sharing listings here have a start date of May 28, 2001.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011011164201/www.rentmycar.de/sangebot.afp

There were NO other peer to peer car sharing services on the Internet in 2001 or before that time which were offering this business model except for RentMyCar. Therefore, RentMyCar is the true first peer to peer car sharing service that was launched in 2001 and RentMyCar is the only peer to peer car sharing service that can claim that right. Any company or service that claims to be the fist peer to peer car sharing service is making an intentional or negligent claim and they are subjecting themselves to litigation for injunctive relief as RentMyCar intends to hold onto its title and to expose those who choose to intentionally misinform the public.

In the case of Relayrides, the founders are making an intentional false statement to the public since they have been sent a cease and desist notice from RentMyCar and they have ignored it while continuing to misinform the public. Relayrides has even falsely informed their investors, Google, that they are "the world's first neighbor-to-neighbor carsharing service" (http://www.google.com/ventures/relayrides.html). Litigation in 2011 for injunctive relief against Relayrides will move forward if they continue to misinform the public and claim a right belonging to RentMyCar.

Please include the above citation in the article for RentMyCar to establish that we are the first global peer to peer car sharing service and not Relayrides. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.42.89 (talk) 08:32, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay I added the sources because they support the claim. Good luck with your injunctive relief?  MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 03:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much. You have shown me that Wikipedia's editors are performing in good faith by seeking the truth in their posted articles. Hopefully, this article will help stop the many peer to peer car sharing services Worldwide from continuing to falsely informing the public that they were the first peer to peer car sharing service when, in fact, RentMyCar can only claim that right.

BTW, could you please add the following citation to the article. It displays the names, titles, descriptions and photos of RentMyCar's founders. As you can see, RentMyCar teamed up with the second car sharing company, StattAuto GMbh. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StattAuto. They had one car in 1988 that they rented out; but they did not offer peer to peer car sharing. Here is the earliest record of their website identifying car sharing and their cars: http://web.archive.org/web/19970216041827/www.stattauto.de/Idee.html

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.42.89 (talk) 07:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

California bill AB 1871: Signed September 2010
Correcting an incorrect entry in the article. Bill AB 1871 was already signed by Gov. Schwarzenegger in September 2010. The bill went into law on January 1,2011. http://www.aroundthecapitol.com/billtrack/text.html?bvid=20090AB187192CHP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.35.42.89 (talk) 12:15, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed renaming
I would propose renaming this as "Peer-to-peer car sharing" because that is used far more commonly than "Peer-to-peer car rental".

Search results for "Peer-to-peer car rental" = 235,000; search results for "Peer-to-peer car sharing" = 633,000. MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 13:59, 27 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Seeing no objections, I'll implement this. MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 15:58, 2 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I know this is way too late to bring up but I think the new name is disingenuous. It's just like Airbnb talking about 'sharing'. The term may be more common on Google, but is that because it is used more by the public or by the companies who use this kind of terminology to distract attention from their business model? I would definitely argue the latter..79.78.176.9 (talk) 22:32, 30 January 2018 (UTC)