Talk:Peggy Shippen

Death date
The death date at the top of the page(stating when she was born and when she died) is different from what later in the article says. Please get this changed. (I have no idea what the actual death date was!) Alyssa Jane (talk) 23:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Novel
Hey everyone. I am writing a history novel about Peggy Shippen. If anyone has any other webpages that I can use for information, please tell me the site address. Thanks! NovelWriter2598 (talk) 15:08, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Biased
This article is not NPOV.(213.10.46.8 (talk) 22:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC))

Rewriting
I'm going to rewrite this and I'd appreciate some help.

Many errors in this -- anyone want to discuss?
I am co-author of an upcoming biography of Peggy Shippen. There are many factual errors here, in my view, but rather than simply correcting them, I would prefer to discuss them with the authors of this entry. For starters, Peggy was born June 11, not July 11. And the Lawrence portrait of her with her child shows her firstborn son Edward, not her daughter Sophia. (Young boys often wore their hair long back then.) Also, Peggy had three sisters, not two. Lots of other things, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markejacob (talk • contribs) 03:29, 16 January 2012‎ (UTC)


 * Regarding the portrait: the caption identifying it as her daughter is based on the source, ExplorePAHistory.com. —C.Fred (talk) 03:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 02:34, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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Description as 'the highest-paid spy in the American Revolution'
First, describing her as a 'spy' seems rhetorical and dubious, since all she definitely did was handle her husband's conspiratorial correspondence, which makes her at most a plotter, not a spy; the text also says that 'some historians believe' that she sent military secrets before her marriage, but 'some ... believ[ing]' is not enough for a categorical description in the lede. Second, saying that she was 'a paid spy' seems even more inaccurate, since she only got an award from the British Crown after the events. She wasn't being paid while she was conspiring and she had no way of knowing whether and how she would be rewarded by the British. By this logic, a researcher or writer who got a Nobel prize could be said to have been a 'paid researcher/writer' of the Nobel committee. Everything indicates that her beliefs were loyalist to begin with and that she wasn't motivated by payment. One source may have called her that; I'd say that's a sensationalist, inaccurate and biased description which hardly belongs in the lede. 62.73.69.121 (talk) 09:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)