Talk:Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board

New Sections
Added a few sections. Planning to add references. Dougz1 (talk) 18:13, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please do.--Hq3473 (talk) 18:19, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If you see something that can be improved, do not hesitate to do it yourself. References done on newly added sections.  Dougz1 (talk) 22:29, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Declaration form?
"Young adults who are "carded" at Wine & Spirits stores have their identification data entered into the point of sale register. It is used to generate a "Declaration of Age" form to be signed by the purchaser and witnessed by the clerk."

Maybe I'm not young enough anymore.. but I am routinely carded at state stores and have never signed any such form. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.132.221.211 (talk) 16:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

It looks like a standard receipt with a bit of extra wording at the bottom. They are not always given out, and I have personally visited the same establishment several times and only been asked to sign one occasionally.


 * This is known as a PLCB Form 931. It is only occasionally generated by a clerk by pressing a button marked "Minor Challenge" on the touch screen of the point of sale register (or by pressing the F5 button on the keyboard).  The clerk then scans a bar code on the back of the ID (or manually enters information if an out-of-state ID does not scan).  Many clerks do not bother to scan Pennsylvania ID's because they know to look for certain security features on Pennsylvania-issued ID's.  The 931 is printed on the register's receipt tape, and is then given to the customer to sign (and the clerk to countersign) as a declaration of age.  The 931 is kept in the store's records for a certain period of time. Bill S. (talk) 21:01, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Controversies?
I'm surprised at the lack of a "controversy" section in this article. I don't know enough about the topic to add such a section myself, but I distinctly remember reading in the news that the PLCB has been ignoring a US Supreme Court ruling that ordered it to allow direct out of state wine shipping. The only hint I see in the article that not everything is well is the quotes added to the "Benefits" to the customers section. Does anybody know more? MCSmarties (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.89.183 (talk) 00:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Largest purchaser
"This government corporation is the largest purchaser of wine and liquor in the United States and second in the world after the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, which operates in a slightly more populous Canadian province." I would suggest a "citation needed" on this one, I have heard that both the Swedish state monopoly Systembolaget and the british chain Tesco are the worlds largest purchasers of alcohol. /Ola —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.136.121.161 (talk) 10:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

confusing terminology
If the PLCB is one of the largest single purchasers of alcoholic beverages in the world,  then what exactly are the "wholesale" licenses for ? The retail sale of bottled liquor is monopolised by the Board's own chain of 609 stores. Do all of the licensed bars and restaurants also have to source all their product from the Board also ?

Is this quota system still current ? I've been to lots of towns in Pennsylvania and there seems to be lots more bars and restaurants than one per 3000 inhabitants.Eregli bob (talk) 04:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

It is stated there are more than 20,000 businesses licensed by Pennsylvania to sell liquor. If this is one business per 3,000 inhabitants,  then there should be 60 million Pennsylvanians,  which does not appear to be the case.

It states in the introduction that the Board has powers to regulate the distribution of spirits, wines and brewed beverages. But later on, it refers to the retailing of spirits and wine only ( and doesn't mention beer ). Is beer subject to the same monopoly distribution system, or different controls ?Eregli bob (talk) 04:30, 26 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Wholesale licenses refer to beer distributors. All of the bars and restaurants (referred to as "licensees") which hold liquor licenses in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania must purchase their wines and spirits at their local Wine & Spirits Store, and must buy their beer at their local beer distributor. Bill S. (talk) 21:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Totally incomprehensible language
"The PLCB's operating expenses over time, however, the percentage of actual profit from sales has dwindled from a 7.65% profit margin on gross sales in FY 2000–01 to less than 2.5% in FY 2009–10." Can anyone parse this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.76.59.214 (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I, too, do not understand this language, either. I was taught by instructors in my PLCB job training that the PLCB hands over more than $500 million per year in profits to Pennsylvania's general fund, and that the PLCB uses no tax dollars in its operation. Bill S. (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Article improvements
It would not take much to get this article to C-class. A start would be the 8 paragraph lead. Otr500 (talk) 23:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)