Talk:Pennsylvania Manufacturers' Association

AfC
I posted this article for Afc in December 2022. It was finally approved in April 2023, but then the editor, QuantumReal, withdrew his approval after about 45 minutes later. I posted many questions and comments on his talk page, but he has not responded.

I did make revisions that I thought might meet his comments and objections, but, as he doesn't answer my questions, I really don't know. I hope he is all right.

Anyway, I'm posting for approval again and wonder if I can get some assistance and not have to wait so long as I did before.

Thanks. Hamish barebones (talk) 21:38, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Need help
This article was approved for creation by editor LJF2019 in May 2023, still bearing the "notability template." I asked LJF2019 for help in getting it removed and was rewarded with several excellent suggestions. I'm asking for help here.

LJF2019 suggested I analyze the citations. They are:

Total number of Citations – 32, each is an independent, recognized media or publishing source.

Sources –

Sources from the subject of the article – 0

University Publishing University of Pennsylvania Press – 5 citations

Pennsylvania State University Press – 1 citation

Commercial Book Publishers

Dorrance Publishing, Pittsburgh – 2 citations Vanguard Press, New York City – 1 citation MacMillan and Co., New York City – 1 citation

Newspaper, Magazine Publishers

New York Times, New York City – 6 citations Pennsylvania Media

Pennlive, Mechanicsburg, PA – 3 citations Insurance PA, Harrisburg, - 2 citations Bloomberg, New York City 1 citation Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Pittsburgh – 1 citation City & State PA, Philadelphia – 1 citation Inside Sources DV Journal, Washington DC – 1 citation Pennsylvania Business Report, Washington DC – 1 citation Pittsburgh Business Times, Pittsburgh, 1 citation TribLive, Taretum, PA 1 citation NorthcentralPA.com. Williamsport, PA – 1 citation Philadelphia Magazine, Philadelphia – 1 citation

Trade Journals Reliable Plant, Tulsa, OK 1 citation Energy News Network, St. Paul, MN 1 citation

Should I continue to search for more? This appears to be a good beginning for notability for an organization that has been at the core of the US's fifth largest manufacturing state for 114 years.

What else, if anything, might anyone suggest to improve this article?

Hamish barebones (talk) 19:39, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Notability

 * I have been working with User:LJF2019 to improve the article Pennsylvania Manufacturers’ Association. I am seeking help in determining whether to remove the “Notability” template from the article.
 * To date, here's what’s been done:
 * 1.   Citations - Total number of Citations – 32, each an independent, recognized media or publishing source.
 * Sources –
 * Sources from the subject of the article – None
 * University/higher education publishing
 * University of Pennsylvania Press – 5 citations
 * Pennsylvania State University Press – 1 citation
 * Commercial Book Publishers
 * Dorrance Publishing, Pittsburgh – 2 citations
 * Vanguard Press, New York City – 1 citation
 * MacMillan and Co., New York City – 1 citation
 * Newspaper, Magazine Publishers
 * New York Times, New York City – 6 citations
 * Bloomberg, New York City 1 citation
 * PennLive, Mechanicsburg, PA – 3 citations
 * Insurance Pennsylvania, Harrisburg, - 2 citations
 * Pittsburgh Post Gazette, Pittsburgh – 1 citation
 * City & State PA, Philadelphia – 1 citation
 * Inside Sources DV Journal, Washington DC – 1 citation
 * Pennsylvania Business Report, Washington DC – 1 citation
 * Pittsburgh Business Times, Pittsburgh, 1 citation
 * TribLive, Taretum, PA 1 citation
 * NorthcentralPA.com. Williamsport, PA – 1 citation
 * Philadelphia Magazine, Philadelphia – 1 citation
 * Trade Journals
 * Reliable Plant, Tulsa, OK 1 citation
 * Energy News Network, St. Paul, MN 1 citation
 * This list was posted on the talk page above; no editors commented or objected to any of them.
 * 2.   Teahouse
 * An explanation of the issue and request for help was posted on the Teahouse. One editor responded with broad guidelines on notability. The request was then archived.
 * 3.   I posted a “Help me” request on my talk page. One editor responded with information that the “Help me” request was used incorrectly. This editor also noted that the “notability” template was also a request for help, not a negative.
 * 4.   I continued to update with article and add new citations on the updates.
 * A conclusion from the fewresponses to this activity is that, although the PMA may not be of high interest to other editors, this does not affect the notability.
 * Quite a bit has been accomplished on this article, so I would like to propose that the “notability” template be removed. In the Wikipedia spirit of cooperation and consensus, could editors read the article, check the citations, and let us know whether they concur with this conclusion?
 * I suggest that we set a deadline for responses of 12 April 2024 and make our decision then. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
 * Quite a bit has been accomplished on this article, so I would like to propose that the “notability” template be removed. In the Wikipedia spirit of cooperation and consensus, could editors read the article, check the citations, and let us know whether they concur with this conclusion?
 * I suggest that we set a deadline for responses of 12 April 2024 and make our decision then. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Hamish barebones (talk) 19:22, 21 March 2024 (UTC)