Talk:People (The 1975 song)

Genre of the song
MelanieN, I know there's an iter to follow to add infos on wikipedia pages. I'm the one who stubbornly changed many times the genres as hard rock and hardcore punk. Now, I created an account just to answer to you because I can't figure out another way to contact you. I know I'm not a reviewer, I haven't written any article on wikipedia or such, plus I'm just an italian stranger. You quote, as it should be on an academic paper or dissertation, references. "Music critics" say it's dance-punk... Have you listened extensively to the transformation of the dance punk genre from the 70 till today solely in the UK (but let's add the american scene too, just to give a wider perspective)? The song has little to no trace of such genre in its style (no dance rhythms, no keys, no synths, no disco influences on the hi-hat which is almost totally absent in the song). Try instead to listen on modern hard rock production and to read the english wikipedia page about hardcore punk, focusing on the singing style and the theme of the song's lyrics. I'm just pointing out that my several changes on the song's genre are fact related, and not only based on how I'd like to categorise the song. Hoping to receive an amswer from you. Kind regards LucaJelson (talk) 20:17, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Wikipedia has policies of Verifiability and No original research, which mean that every genre we quote needs to be sourced to a reliable secondary source. Our own analyses are not sufficient. — Bilorv ( talk ) 06:38, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

@Bilorv following this process, even the page for Hardcore Punk should be erased almost in its entirety. If all research is necessary but not sufficient, why does Wikipedia exist? We should rely only on what technicians tell us, just because they have an established name, work in important magazines and have a verified reliability for this. That doesn't mean that they are automatically correct, especially in such a grey-zone field as that of music and music genres, which are subjective. That doesn't help my thesis, but if Wikipedia is based on the previously mentioned points, the results are: a) I followed what the Hardcore Punk page of wikipedia says, so I trust on its verifiability and sources and am right. Or, b) verifiability is only a matter of taste and preferences, as such you are wrong, MelanieN is wrong and Wikipedia is wrong. Its own principles must be respected either at any time or never. Hope to receive your answer Bilorv, I might be wrong. If so, let me know why. Thank you LucaJelson (talk) 08:43, 30 August 2019 (UTC)