Talk:Pepsi/Archive 2

Kendall Jenner for PEPSI
Pepsi released a controversial commercial on YouTube including Kendall Jenner as the main focus of equality of the protests being displayed. The Pepsi commercial tries to promote togetherness and unity but instead creates controversial issues about police brutality and the idea of black lives matter Pepsi has borrowed imagery from the Black Lives Matter movement and people have been saying that this commercial has trivialized the protests that have been going on around the world involving police brutality with African Americans and the horrors that it has. With the current issues going on today, Pepsi thought that this idea of unity with police and the people can be clear with giving a can of Pepsi to a police officer during a rough times. People thought that it was disrespectful of Pepsi to use this white women as a representation of the serious situations that are happening. Another issue was the intenseness of the protests that Pepsi was showing. A actual protest that they were basically mocking would be seen as more violent and serious instead of being glorified the way that they did. They used scenes of appropriate behavior from both the people and the police officers to broadcast this “idea” that they tried to get at. It also created a lot of social media feedback, especially of people in power who were completely in disbelief of the message Pepsi was sending. Bernice King wrote on Twitter, “If only daddy would have known about the power of #Pepsi” Bernice King is the daughter of MLK Jr. who was clearly disappointed by the inappropriate message sent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GabbaGg (talk • contribs) 02:27, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

4-Methylimidazole
See 4-Methylimidazole — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:14A:600:6420:B548:A247:AFC7:C64 (talk) 21:17, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Ingredients
Nutrition facts in the article say that a 355-ml-can of Pepsi contains 41 g of sugar, which makes 11,55 g/100 ml. I have a 330 ml can for export and it says 10,7 g/100 ml. I assume that Pepsi for different markets may contain different ingredients. Richard Leemann (talk) 21:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Date for Shortening to "Pepsi"
The statement in the introduction that the name was shortened from "Pepsi-Cola" to "Pepsi" in 1961 does not seem to be supported by the citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joepallas (talk • contribs) 00:57, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Cocaine
Was wondering if there's any evidence that the early variant contained cocaine or similar stimulants in the same way that the coke brand did. I can seem to find no material that either proves nor disproves this theory. 71.91.178.54 (talk) 20:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * There's has never been any such claims in regard to Pepsi. There is some debate whether the original formulation included pepsin, or if the name is just a reference to its supposed benefits to digestive health (it was said to help dyspepsia). The only stimulant it's ever been said to contain is caffeine. oknazevad (talk) 01:27, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Etymology
As a native of New Bern, the birthplace of Pepsi, I recently learned that Pepsi Cola was actually named not for any ingredients, but from the letters from Episcopal Church directly across the street rearranged. From the window of the shop where Pepsi was first created, you can see the church and the letters that make up the name of the church. I hope someone who has access to editing this article sees this and makes the correction. Lillyspeight (talk) 05:35, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Very dubious. Need a proper citation for that, not what sounds like a silly folk etymology. oknazevad (talk) 02:43, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2018
"11 grams fewer of potassium than Coke" is obviously untrue, and poorly written at that. 12.184.167.51 (talk) 18:49, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I speculate that someone was poking at a Coke Zero bottle when they added that. But Coke itself contains no appreciable potassium, same as Pepsi. oknazevad (talk) 20:27, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Pepsiman creator
The sentence "The design of the Pepsiman character is attributed to Canadian comic book artist Travis Charest, created sometime around the mid-1990s." should be removed. Not only does this claim has no reference, but Travis Charest himself denied this attribution on Twitter: https://twitter.com/TravisCharest/status/849532167399116802
 * Removed. That's pretty definitive. oknazevad (talk) 14:24, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2019
Changing the many references to "blacks" in the Niche Marketing section to "black people". MaverickMapper (talk) 20:32, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template. The word "blacks" is used repeatedly in the modern sections of African Americans. Perhaps you would like to address this issue at the talk page for that article.  – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:12, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

History Section Inconsistencies
There are inconsistencies between the Pepsi and PepsiCo pages in key timeline events like the first bankruptcy and in the Loft v. Guth case. Rather than aligning these, why not set up a redirect from the History section on Pepsi to the History section on PepsiCo? We could arrange to match the text, however that seems like an unnecessary duplication out of sync with Wiki's guidelines. GroundFloor (talk) 21:00, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think that's a good idea, because although the company's and the product's histories are so tied up, the soda predates the company by some thirty years – the bankruptcy was not the modern company, but was a key part of the founding of the modern company, if one considers the modern PepsiCo as the same company Guth founded when he bought the rights to the product; it only took current name upon the merger with Frito-Lay and the company has a lot more than just the soda in its portfolio.
 * Redundancies are inevitable, I think, but I would not agree with removing the history section for either article. After all, PepsiCo is a much larger company than just Pepsi and other sodas. There's the entire Frito-Lay and Quaker Oats segments, and numerous other products and business whose histories are irrelevant to a history of Pepsi as a product. That aspect, the irrelevance to Pepsi-Cola, is why I think there should still be separate sections, not just a pointer. Plus not having an actual section runs afoul of WP:SUMMARY; just a header with a link is not how sections are ever supposed to look. oknazevad (talk) 13:04, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Great points. Appreciate your insight. I will continue aligning the history sections to reflect events as recorded in sources of public record. Hadn't considered the nature of the two histories as distinct. Thanks again. GroundFloor (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Questionable source
In the History section there is reference to a Soda Museum source that is extremely promotional in tone and does not itself cite any third-party sources. Some of the information from this source likewise does not align with details presented in the Guth v. Loft opinion of the Delaware Supreme Court. As such, I think this source should be removed from the page and alternative sources found to verify historical information on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GroundFloor (talk • contribs) 19:31, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have removed the source entirely. All the material it was used for is already sourced elsewhere with better sources (mostly the website of museum that contains Caleb Bradham's original drugstore where Pepsi was first created). Some rejiggering of that, and removal of a redundant passage, was sufficient to cover the article without the outdated fan site. oknazevad (talk) 20:56, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2019
In 1990, Pepsi sold approximately $3 billion worth of products to the Soviet Union. Due to the nonconvertibility of the Soviet Union's ruble, the Soviet Union traded 10 naval tankers and freighters, alongside Stolichnaya vodka. Before the ships were recycled for scrap metal, this placed Pepsi as the owner of the 6th most powerful military in the world. https://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/09/business/international-report-pepsi-will-be-bartered-for-ships-vodka-deal-with-soviets.html Corcordp (talk) 01:36, 6 September 2019 (UTC)


 * ❌. It's not clear what changes you want to make.  Do you want to add this text?  If so, where?  Furthermore, the article merely says the deal was expected, not that it actually happened. There's also nothing about Pepsi having the "sixth most powerful military in the world" in the article; that seems to be a silly claim on its face, especially considering the ships were freighters and tankers.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon &bull; videos) 02:49, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2020
I would like to add that Despite its name Pepsi has never contained the chemical known as pepsin https://www.pepsistore.com/history.asp 71.254.105.174 (talk) 10:15, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ – Thjarkur (talk) 12:24, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Help
I screwed something up on the page when I took something that was spam out of the article. I do not know how to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.67.220.27 (talk • contribs) 03:44, 3 February 2009‎

Flavour section
In reference to the flavour section, I figured the most likely way of portraying the various flavours were as one long list as it may become rather disputable to some if categorized another way. Of course, this can become rather unwieldy though. I for one agree Code Red is virtually Mountain Dew with a variant kick, but I'm not so sure it may be the best way to go about it. Also, I see the horizontal listing as obscured when vertical makes it quite easy to see multiple flavours such as Pepsi, Pepsi ONE, Pepsi, etc. and cancel out all the Pepsis in my head rather than having various colour patterns and trying to differentiate among how a group listing is separated. Perhaps this is all wrong though so I would like some council on what the rest of you think. Dtgm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dtgm (talk • contribs) 00:25, 6 January 2004‎

Edit request
Can anyone remove Pakistan from the following line: Overall, Coca-Cola continues to outsell Pepsi in almost all areas of the world. However, exceptions include Oman, India, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, the Canadian provinces of Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island, and Northern Ontario.[32]

As the source is old, and no longer holds true. Source: https://www.kalinax.com/pepsi-coca-cola.html

Would anybody please Add: Pepsi is currently the Regional Supporter of the African Cup of Nations 2010

Thanks

Sources:Chispy Egypt's Youtube

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2021
Pepsi is not American; it is Luxembourgian because the logo resembles the Luxembourg flag and the country itself is known for drinking a lot! 109.158.99.243 (talk) 13:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kpg  jhp  jm  14:04, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to merge Pepsi and List of Pepsi Variations
I believe that list of Pepsi variations should be added to the Pepsi Article, as it would be more useful than just linking to the "list of Pepsi variations". Also, if you bring up the length of the list, which is not that big but I will still add this if you bring it up, you should note that the flavours section in the Lays article is a giant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BABA IS YOU (talk • contribs) 21:32, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Not a good idea as Pepsi has many variations on the market and the article is already long — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.180.90 (talk) 14:24, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Closing, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 08:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Pepsi and Coke in the Soviet Union
The paragraphs about Pepsi in Russia and the Soviet Union should be rewritten. In the last several decades of the Soviet Union until the 1980s, Coca Cola was not available in the Soviet Union, at all. Pepsi was one of the very few western brands available in the Soviet Union (possibly the only one), and hence Pepsi was certainly "more popular" than Coke, which was not available at all. The text should be revised to reflect this. The availability of Pepsi in the Soviet Union was limited, and might not have been available outside Moscow and other large cities. It would be good to have this researched properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.253.238.230 (talk) 09:04, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 July 2021
I want to add photos of Pepsi bottles that are missing. Ayush &#38; Anika Singh (talk) 05:45, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. melecie   t  10:34, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2022
Under the subhead "Marketing", there is no mention of the biggest marketing incident in the brand's history in 2017. This incident is mentioned elsewhere on Wikipedia, but not on the Pepsi page.

For example, under the Kendall Jenner wiki page: "In April 2017 Pepsi cast Jenner as the star for the commercial advertisement in a role in which she used the beverage to make peace between police officers and protesters.[144][145][146] This ad was criticized for trivializing the protests against police brutality, particularly as it affects African Americans.[145] Pepsi pulled the ad within a day, and apologized to Jenner for putting her in this position. She was reportedly "devastated" by the ad, although she "had the right to approve the ad before it was released". According to the same source, Jenner's contract with Pepsi prohibited her from commenting on the fallout.[147]"

This paragraph should be included in the Pepsi page. 14.200.174.174 (talk) 06:04, 2 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. casualdejekyll  12:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Reliable Source:

Copy to add to Pepsi page under 'Marketing' section: Pepsi advertisement In April 2017 Pepsi cast Kendall Jenner as the star for the commercial advertisement in a role in which she used the beverage to make peace between police officers and protesters.[144][145][146] This ad was criticized for trivializing the protests against police brutality, particularly as it affects African Americans.[145] Pepsi pulled the ad within a day, and apologized to Jenner for putting her in this position.

14.200.174.174 (talk) 03:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Major marketing moment of 21st century
Reliable Source:

Copy to add to Pepsi page under 'Marketing' section replicated from the above source page: Pepsi advertisement In April 2017 Pepsi cast Kendall Jenner as the star for the commercial advertisement in a role in which she used the beverage to make peace between police officers and protesters.[144][145][146] This ad was criticized for trivializing the protests against police brutality, particularly as it affects African Americans.[145] Pepsi pulled the ad within a day, and apologized to Jenner for putting her in this position.

14.200.174.174 (talk) 06:10, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2022
The name pepsi (πέψη) is the Greek word for digestion, nothing more nothing less, and thats where Pepsi got its name. It is not dyspepsia or other pepsi rooted words. 24.44.117.93 (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

In 1993, Pepsi introduced cube-styled cans.https://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/12/business/company-news-a-cube-to-carry-pepsi-looks-to-reshape-packaging-for-soda-cans.html Ezec1cb (talk) 20:12, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

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