Talk:Percy Jackson & the Olympians/Archive 1

Advance Copy
I am not a member of wikipedia and I have a question about whether something meets wikipedia's standatds. I work for a newspaper and, if an advanced copy of a book is not used for a book review, the reviewer puts them out where anyone can take them. The Titans Curse was one of these books. Would it meet wikipedia's standards to publish spoilers about the plot? Also, The Sea of Monsters should be further explained (as with The Lightning Theif). Could someone please elaborate on this.

Putting down spoilers for an unrealeased book would probably be unnecessary, as it would ruin the plot for many. The earliest day I would adivise adding this would be May 5th, 2007. We are trying our best. Thank You. I hope this helps.

It does. I will wait until then. Thanks!
 * You are welcome. --Geracudd 00:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Manticore
Could someone please cite a source saying the Manticore appears in the Titan's Curse.--Geracudd 01:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)


 * yeah thats why u read the book idiot


 * I need a source for something that specific.--Geracudd 21:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

here you go Geracudd " Dr. Thorn, is a monster (the manticore)" this is an excert from wikipedia. User:broncofreak12321 —Preceding comment was added at 16:27, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Return of the Gorgon?
Again, source please. I don't know where you got the idea that was the name.--Geracudd 13:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC) Percy, Thalia and Annabeth go to a military school becuase grover said he found 2 half bloods and meet Mr. Thorn which Thalia uses the mist to make Percy and company like students, And then Dr. Thorn attacked Percy, etc etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 05:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Title for Book 4
The title has yet to be released by the author although an update is posted to Rick Riordan's blog http://rickriordan.blogspot.com/2007/04/percy-four-update.html Please note the Gorgon thing is nonsense.


 * Thanks. I suspected as much.--Geracudd 00:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

The title is going to be The Battle of/in the Labrinth.--User:broncofreak12321 —Preceding comment was added at 16:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Race
Can anyone add 'Race' to character template that is being used by several pages of characters in this series? I feel it is important since the books deals with many types of cratures, from centaurs to demigods. (Emino 08:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC))
 * Someone should add in Luke he is important —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.63.61.163 (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Movie!
The IMDB Site is not good, you have to signup for a pay account. Thus, for non-paying people it is an irrelevant source. Should I remove it? Chanceeastham (talk) 03:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, there aren't much references to the movie, and I really want to know more about it! But I must say, it has the imformation you need to know. (Strix Struma (talk) 01:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC))


 * I thought a movie was officially announced... production should begin soon if it happens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ehccheehcche (talk • contribs) 02:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I am pretty sure the author of the books (Rick Riordan0 has a role in making the movie. Not sure what it is... hopefully more news to follow! Ehccheehcche (talk) 01:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * If a large section is made for the movie, there needs to be a spoiler warning —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 20:10, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

The Big Three
I think there should be an article explaining who the Big Three Are(Posiden, Zeus, and Hades). What ya guys think? King Rock Go 'Skins! 00:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * not necessary. instead, let there be a "Characters in Percy Jackson and the Olympians" article and list them under a subsection of "Olympians" as "The Big Three" and explain it there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.233.246.235 (talk) 07:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Higher Standards
all of the articles relating to teh series seriously need higher standards; just reading a few lines of it, i noticed that it sounds more like a brief oral description than an encyclopedia entry. for example, this part of Nico's description in the article for Titan's Curse: "This is when Percy realizes that Hades is their father, but it isn't determined whether or not Nico knows this. Also he hates and wants Percy dead since he did not protect his sister as he promised." it would be better as something like "He now hates Percy because he did not protect Bianca like he had promised."


 * I find that many of the summary articles here are not very well written. This is a great series, and I think that the articles should be written with a bit more care.  I have taken some very small steps in editing them for better flow.  As I have the time I will edit more. Aleixa (talk) 18:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I second this person's opinion.

Look at this: What we know about The Last Olympian so far:

We get to meet Luke's mom.

We get to meet the goddess, Hestia.

The release date will be 5th May 2009.

The first draft of the book is done and Rick is working on the revisions.

Rick posted the book's title on the 4th September.

This is the last one in the series chronicling Percy Jackson's fight with the Titan lord Kronos. (sources: blue trident)

Who in god's name would just do that?

Sincerely 71.184.121.224 (talk) 04:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)Summer Glau71.184.121.224 (talk) 04:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Help
Alot of articles in about the series need to be cleaned up. Especially with details regarding the fourth book. I just finished it and will try and help some. Thanks! Ehccheehcche (talk) 01:03, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

First kiss with Annabeth
It says in the article that in the Battle of the Labyrinth, "On page 203 Percy and Annabeth share their first kiss." However, in the Sea of Monsters (paperback edition), page 268, "Annabeth planted a kiss on my cheek".


 * I would have deleted the text, but I don't know what to replace it with.
 * Would that sea of monsters kiss count, as they aren't "sharing" the kiss?

Meh, I'm probably treating a wikipedia article as harry potter analysis material. But I thought it was worth pointing out.

Shortgeek (talk) 03:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

List of Characters?
I think there should be a page on the list of characters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CAPTAIN234 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * agreed Solar Flute (talk) 04:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

what about the likeness to Harry Potter
title. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.139.82.126 (talk) 13:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)


 * What about them? I don't see any, other than their kids books. Trance.fusion (talk) 13:45, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Same plot as The Lightning Thief. Very similar parts to the Harry Potter books.--62.0.165.68 (talk) 21:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

The first, the third and the fourth books have borrowed heavily from Apollodorus's Library and also from Heliodorus; it has the same plot, and the same characters. The second book (Sea of Monsters) is based on the Odyssey. It seems that the author tried to follow the plots of his ancient models closely, and he does not hide his intention. Of course, J. K. Rowling also borrowed from Apollodorus, Heliodorus and Aeschilus (for instance, Libation Bearers). This explains the similarities between the two authors. BTW, Rick Riordan seems to know Greek, and to have read his models in Greek. In fact, he is a teacher of Greek mythology, and Apollodorus, Homer, and Heliodorus are likely to be his only models. I do not believe that he got his ideas from Ms Rowling's books. I would like to point out that Rick Riordan made a small mistake. There are two kinds of Cyclops, according to Apollodorus. Three Cyclops are the children of the Earth: Arges, Brontes, and Steropes. Earth's children are very good at working with metals. Posseidon's children do not make metalwork. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.15.20.251 (talk) 04:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

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battle of the labyrinth excess
there is WAAY too much information in the battle of the labyrinth segment, ESPECIALLY without paragraph spacing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.86.220 (talk) 22:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Unecessary Spoiler Warning?
I'm not sure that there should be a spoiler warning at the beginning of the article, as Wikipedia does not promote spoiler warnings; however, before I remove it I would like a second opinion. Ladywitchthought (talk) 06:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC) Never mind Ladywitchthought (talk) 05:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

-I total Agree There should be a spoiler warning but luckily i have already read the series —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 20:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Book 5 information, In or not?
Well, we have put in the Book 5 information for several times, and it has been removed by users for several times. I'm putting it back for now, until we have a solution.Mktsay123 (talk) 15:34, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Uh yeah Book 5 Percy Jackson and the Last Olympian came out on May 5, 2009 you can buy it now —Preceding unsigned comment added by AuraShade96 (talk • contribs) 00:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Messed Up
Anyone noticed that in Percy, Annabeth & others have who they like instead of gender? does that make sense? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.102.54.36 (talk) 06:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Bad book summaries
The summaries read like freakin' stuff off the back flap of a book. Wikipedia doesn't care about spoiling, and it's meant to be as un-biased (not a word, but I'm tired) as possible. 71.139.201.85 (talk) 16:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I was about to come here to say just the same. The summary of a plot is supposed to cover from the start to the end. It starts by laying out the basic situation in a sentence or two, saying who the main characters are, and then describing in a reasonably concise way what happens to them. It then gives the resolution. Even in a series with extensive hooks into the next volume, there's usually some temporary resolution at the end of a volume,and if not, one says so. the way to do it is to lay the book aside, and try to write as if telling someone a friend or relative who isn't likely to read the book, what the book is about so the next time you go on about how much you like it, he'll understand you. DGG (talk) 04:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Luke?
Should someone start the Article for Luke, because he is a very important character? Queenqpawn (talk) 18:49, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Tyson the Cyclops + Juniper
Tyson the Cyclops redirects back to the Percy Jackson & The Olympians main page. Juniper does not have her own article yet. Should articles be made about them? Extremepro (talk) 04:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Juniper needs one. Also, why do those Hermes twins have a character page? I don't think they were that pertinent to the story.65.35.180.133 (talk) 02:43, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Percy Jackson
The summary for him is terrible its waayy too small. It needs fixing A LOT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.36.89 (talk) 20:09, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

where do i go to read the percy jackson character page
i want to go but every time i try to it just brings me to the series page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Voltageman78 (talk • contribs) 03:07, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It has been redirected to the title page as per AfDExtremepro (talk) 03:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


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Percy Jackson character?
Why is there NO character page for Percy. There are a bunch of links on this page FOR it....that lead to this page. Someone please make a page or just remove the link.--D3t3ctiv3 (talk) 04:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There is a page, but for some reason, it's not very good. It doesn't look like the pages made for all the supporting characters. I'm going to try and see if I can fix it up a little bit. Hurricanewest (talk) 19:15, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Hurricanewest and me are goin' to try to fix it up. --Tatlolou (talk) 22:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)Tatlolou

New Percy character page
I'm working on the new Percy page that had been created. I know that the previous page was up for deletion and ended up being redirected to the page about the books, however, the other character, major and some minor, have their own pages, so it seems silly that the protagonist has no character page of his own. Also in regards to this, I think some of the info needs to changed on this page, but that can be discussed at another time Hurricanewest (talk) 07:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

General Info?
Since the new Percy page is under way, I was wondering if anyone else agrees that we should remove things on this page that are directly character related. Like the fatal flaw, etc...? Hurricanewest (talk) 07:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I agree that the "Fatal Flaw" section shouldn't be on the series page. And it will need rewriting wherever it ends up. - Frankie (talk) 21:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Demigod Files
Why doesn't it have a blurb here already? I would volunteer, but my daughter just loaned it to me and I ought to read it. :) - Frankie (talk) 21:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Look. N . G . G . 21:52, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Percy's Parents
In the parents section for Percy, It says Paul Blofis is his step father. BUT, Sally and Paul haven't gotten married. --Tatlolou (talk) 20:29, 18 March 2009 (UTC)Tatlolou

Articles_for_deletion/Annabeth_(Percy_Jackson)_(2nd_nomination)
FYI. Ikip (talk) 20:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Actors for lightning thief movie
so far no one has ever posted anything serious and detailed about the movie for percy jackson. and no one seemed to care so maybe this will fill you with info:

actors in movie

logan lerman as Percy Jackson

alexandra daddario as annabeth chase(wich is kinda messed up becuase alexandra daddario is 20 or so yrs. old

jake abel as luke

catherine keener as sally jackson (percy's mom)

brandon T. jackson as grover (im guessing the picked him cuase they dont want it to seem rascist cuase brandon t. jackson is black)

pierce brosnan(original james bond actor) as chiron

uma thurman as medusa

Tim Aas as procrustes(water bed shop owner)

maria olsen as mrs.dodds/fury

the gods: Sean Bean as Zeus

melina kanakaredes as Athena

stephenie von pfetten as Demeter

Serinda Swan as Aphrodite

movie release date is february 12 2010 in the USA and Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.91.6 (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * For your information, the page for the Percy Jackson film is Percy Jackson (film). All this data is present there. Regards, Pmlineditor   Talk 14:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC).

How well the books are selling?
I would like to see information on how well the books are selling. I have seen elsewhere that only 1.2 million copies were sold. This is ten times less than Harry Potter. However, I believe that this number does not mirror the reality. The Last Olympian is 54th in Amazon best seller list. The LT is 339th. The PJ boxed set occupies the 90th place. Therefore, best seller lists seems to indicate that the books have sold more than 1,200,000 copies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.15.20.251 (talk) 05:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

the picture
at the page of the whole serise (Percy Jackson & The Olympians) there is one picture of new edition of the cover.

well, i'm from israel and the hebrew edition have a similer cover, and well, i pretty sure the cover is the reason of the failure of the books in israel. the one who putted that picture wants to assassinate the good name of the series, nothing more. my advice, remove the picture as fast as you can... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.81.99.138 (talk) 18:46, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Camp Half-Blood merger
Discuss here. Airplaneman talk 00:38, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

✅ – merged! Airplaneman talk 03:30, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Fansite? Too long?
I don't think this resembles a fansite, and the plot summaries are about as short as they'll get before they get too choppy. Can I remove the tags? Airplaneman talk 22:32, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree. The Characters table definitely resembles a fansite. A lot of the information there is fancruft — excessive amount of intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience. The table is big but it doesn't really tell anyone unfamiliar with the subject anything about the characters. For example, it doesn't mention that Percy, Annabeth and Grover are friends, which would be a pretty important thing to tell readers in this article. The whole section should be rewritten as prose or a list. In terms of the plot summaries being too long, they definitely are. Wikipedia is not plot-only description of fictional works. Coverage of fiction articles on Wikipedia should include and primarily focus on real-world information, which includes coverage of things like the development, reception and a critical analysis of the subject (more examples). In this article there are only nine sentences of real-world information. Approximately 90% of the article is primary information and approximately 60% of the article is plot summary. This article is written is summary style and supposed to be a overview of the entire series. Each novel article already has a more detailed plot summary and there is no need to repeat the entire plot of each novel in this article. All that is required really is about two sentences, like what is in the lead of each novel article. The rest of each novel's subsection in this article should be real-world information. For instance, how about telling readers when each of the books were released? – kollision (talk) 05:56, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. I'll see what I can do. Airplaneman  talk 23:39, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The last Olympian I think this part should be edited. It is more about the gift they,main-characters receivedrather tan the book itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.24.119 (talk) 23:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Archiving
I suggest that this page be automatically archived by User:Miszabot I to allow easier readability of the talk page. Extremepro (talk) 10:17, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Support — Taking a look at the current archives, with 15 threads each, it seems that there is a thread, maybe two or three, per month. I think this talk page would benefit if the bot archived threads with no posts for over 30 days. That sounds reasonable, I think. Airplaneman talk 19:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Capitalization
Why is the "The" capitalized in the article title? Articles aren't supposed to be capitalized in book titles unless they are the first word, or so I thought. Should I go ahead and ask an admin to move the page over the redirect with the lower case "t", or is there a reason the "The" is capitalized? Thanks, Airplaneman  talk 03:30, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You are correct that capitalizing articles is not normal. However, it is listed on the books as Percy Jackson & The Olympians. Since that is the way the title is written, I would say it's not up to us to change it. Take it up with Rick Riordan! Cheers! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 17:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I see. I just can't fail to notice that all of the letter are caps... I guess keeping the article title will not end the world. Thanks for the input:) Airplaneman  talk 19:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I've had the page moved. We follow Wikipedia's naming conventions not what is on the cover of the book. kollision (talk) 06:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Companion Books Information?
I noticed that we didn't have any information for the companion books, such as The Demigod Files, or the upcoming The Ultimate Guide... Should we add a section for these? I mean, not in detail, maybe just a note, like:

== Companion Books ==

The Demigod Files
The first companion book of the series, The Demigod Files, was released on February 10, 2009, featuring three short stories, various pictures, and interviews of campers. It serves as an introductory guide to Camp Half-Blood.

The Ultimate Guide
This is the second companion book that is to be released in February, 2010. It is to feature a guide to the gods, the camp, the monsters, the labyrinth, and a lot more, all illustrated in full color.

Ok, the above serves as nothing but an example, since I don't really do well at encyclopedia-tic writing. However, I really hope that sections or information like this would be written into the article. Thanks.--Mktsay123 (talk) 15:00, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and BTW, the Character section is placed at a very awkward place...... --Mktsay123 (talk) 15:04, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, I added a section for The Demigod Files. I know nothing about The Ultimate Guide, couldn't find a Wiki page for it, and don't have time to research tonight. I may add that later if I have time, or someone else can get to it first. Also, I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the character section. Could you clarify, please? Thanks for the suggestions! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 02:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I moved the "Characters" Section already. It was originally placed at the very end of the article. And about The Ultimate Guide, the only information I managed to get is from Rick Riordan's blog. Quoting information below:


 * Looking farther down the line, Disney-Hyperion will release the Ultimate Guide to Percy Jackson in February to coincide with the Lightning Thief movie. The Ultimate Guide is a compendium of information and full-color illustrations of Percy Jackson's world, including a bestiary of Greek monsters, and scrapbook of Percy's life, a guide to life at Camp Half-Blood, a tour of the Underworld by Nico di Angelo, a trip through the Labyrinth, and much more.


 * And finally, Disney-Hyperion will be releasing Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Ultimate Guide, in February. I just got my first copy, hot off the presses, and it looks so cool! The cover has this fun holographic band of pictures that change as you move the book. Inside, there is a guide to the gods, camp, monsters, the labyrinth, and much more, all illustrated in full color. Beautiful stuff. My favorite pictures are probably the Manticore and Daedalus's Workshop.

That's all for now.--Mktsay123 (talk) 11:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do with that information. I've moved the graphic novel into companion books too and will make the character sections collapsible. And PrincessofLlyr, you were saying something about a link (on your post on my talk)... I'm not sure what you are referring to. Please clarify. Thanks, Airplaneman  talk 22:54, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Whoa, I just noticed – could the Ultimate Guide be the graphic novel? Sounds like it; release date the same, etc. Unless anyone objects, I'll add it tomorrow (Thanksgiving Break woohoo!) Airplaneman  talk 22:56, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Doubtful, cause judging on the way Rick mentioned these two books on his blog, it seems to be completely two different books. Also, according to the blog, the tentative release date for the Graphic Novel is 10/19/10 . I'll watch for more information. Oh yeah, I need your attention on Talk:The Titan's Curse, thanks.--Mktsay123 (talk) 12:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I see. I took a look and responded there. Airplaneman  talk 02:16, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I found a post on Riordan's blog that lists the graphic novel and Ultimate Guide separately, so I changed the entry. PrincessofLlyr (talk) 00:59, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject
Anybody interested in starting a WikiProject Percy Jackson? ! 05:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * There is already a Percy Jackson task force. A task force is pretty much a Wikiproject without all the administrative and bureaucratic work. Just a group of editors working together on a topic. Task forces are recommended for smaller topics, a Wikiproject neither needed nor wanted. – kollision (talk) 06:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I understand. You'd have to rate everything and there probably aren't enough users to do everything a WikiProject requires.  ! 06:24, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Characters table and Camp Half-Blood section
I have removed the Characters table and the entire Camp Half-Blood section. These are the two major fansite-looking things. Sorry, I know some of you worked quite a bit on these sections, but I really think their removal will greatly improve the quality of this article.

First, the Characters table:
 * All this First appearance, Undertakes quests and Cousins stuff is fancruft – intricate detail that may only interest a specific audience.
 * ...And it doesn't really do what a Characters section is supposed to do – answer the question "Who is ....?" Take for example, Annabeth. Three extremely basic bits of information is not even mentioned once in this article. 12 year old, girl, friends with Percy. Annabeth could be the 50 year old antagonist of the story for all I know. Once in a while, take a step back and read the article as if you know nothing about the subject. Does it make sense and is there anything missing?
 * The main reason for these problems, in my opinion, is because the character table... is a table. Table are bad for characters sections. You get restricted by the headers and it is not a good way to present Character information. The Characters section should be rewritten as either a list (like in the individual novels' articles), in prose form (a few paragraphs naming and describing the characters) or integrate character information into the plot summary (a brief description following the first mention of the character). Integrating it into the plot summary would be the best way to do it, but the other would be fine too.

The Camp Half-Blood section:
 * All the reader needs to know is what was in the first sentence "Camp Half-Blood is a fictional camp for demigods in the series located off Long Island, New York."
 * Everything else is unencyclopedic fancruft. This section should not be recreated, in any form.
 * I wouldn't use the drawing. It is not an official image, hence it isn't really Camp Half-Blood but a fan's interpretation of it. It is original research.

kollision (talk) 09:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help! I started a possible characters list at the PJTF sandbox, if you (or anyone else) would like to take a look at improving that and it could be incorporated into the article shortly. Cheers! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 19:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, kollision. Now that I look at it, yea, it was fancruft. I think the character list should encompass only major characters, and will change the title accordingly. The "to do" list is great! Airplaneman  talk 21:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

ongoing?
I Miss the information wether the series is still ongoing or wether book number 5 was the last one. I think this information is quit crucial for a (book-)series. greez --Wuestenschiff Dune-talk  22:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wuestenschiff (talk • contribs)
 * There is now a section for it. Airplaneman  talk 05:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

this book was awsome thanks rick riordin i coundnve done it without you the movie was awsome if i was the one to star it i would give it atleast 4stars way to make a movie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.14.5.41 (talk) 23:39, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from for redundancy in "The Lightning Thief" section
Hi, I'm a Wikipedia newbie, and I can't make this edit, but if someone who is registered could, it might be helpful to get rid of the redundant "in the end" and "at the end" of the these two sentences in "The Lightning Thief" under the "Novels" section:

In the end it is revealed that Luke, son of Hermes, stole the bolt for Kronos, who is attempting to come back to life. At the end Grover goes off to find Pan, the lost Greek God of nature.

Thanks! loafysam 19:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)loafysam 19:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)loafysam 19:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)loafysam


 * Yes check.svg Done -- Stroppolo talk 19:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Percy Jackson & the Olympians art education program at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
I recently learned that the Metropolitan Museum of Art has art education tours and programs framed around the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series. Does this belong in the article somewhere?  --loafysam (talk) 20:11, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds like something we could definitely use. I just don't know which section it would go under. Ideas? PrincessofLlyr  royal court 20:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm back! School hiatus kept me busy. Do you think it could go under "reception"? Or under it's own subheading, something like "Education" or "Related educational programs"? Those sound kind of awkward, I know...loafysam (talk) 16:51, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 121.208.194.33, 13 May 2010
The Titan's Curse was release on May 1, 2007

121.208.194.33 (talk) 08:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Welcome to Wikipedia. Current article, main article and your request all state three different dates. Please establish a consensus for this alteration, and then feel free to use the  template again. jonkerz♠ 09:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Sorry, I misread the main article. Date is now changed. jonkerz♠ 09:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Question
I've just looked at this article and saw that the receptions area needs expansion and also saw all the reception on the book articles. Couldn't some reviews and awards be taken from the books and put into this main article? Derild 4921  18:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, certainly. Airplaneman   ✈  05:23, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

American covers, etc?!
The article has very few files for the American logo and cover, in fact, barely any! Wasn't the series first released in America?!~ Wimpy Fan boy  chit-chat?sign mine! 18:29, 17 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wimpy Fanboy (talk • contribs)


 * I've also noticed this about the logos and covers. According to http://www.hyperionbooksforchildren.com/contact.asp, the offices for "Hyperion Books for Children"-the publishing company for the series-are in New York, so it's a safe assumption that the series was originally published in America. It might be a good idea to request an image change or to change the image.--Olympian3 (talk) 17:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Don't you reckon we should show both the UK and US versions of the title and book in the article? I think the article hardly has pictures and it is too biased on the US side of things. 122.107.158.194 (talk) 05:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I think at least one American cover should be there somewhere. --Glimmer721 (talk) 23:48, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Names of demigods
The section analyzing the meanings of the demigod's names seems contrived. If we were to keep this, we would need to make the connection between name meanings and their parents' powers. For example, it references bows and arrows several time for Apollo. However, to a reader who is not familiar with greek mythology would not understand the reference. I do not think this is vital to the article and is somewhat un-encyclopedic. 75.69.129.253 (talk) 02:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Negative criticism
There is a lot of negative criticism about Percy Jackson series as well get that in the article too other wise it seems unbiased.-James Pandora Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.151.153 (talk) 22:21, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

The Last Olympian
Isn't there supposed to be the last book The Last Olympian in the list of books? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.30.188.107 (talk) 22:39, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

The mark of Athena is not part of the Percy Jackson series. It is actually part of the Heroes of Olympus series. Also the The Battle of the Labyrinth is missing from the list of stories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Program Death (talk • contribs) 05:25, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Alternative The Lightning Thief summary
I have written an alternative summary for The Lightning Thief that, at just less than 300 words, is still longer than the suggested length but is shorter than the previous summary and spares many unimportant details.

--- Following a fight with Mrs. Dodds, his Pre-Algebra teacher who turns out to be a Fury, Percy discovers that he is a half-blood, a half-human half-god. He learns that his life is in danger as long as he is outside Camp Half-Blood, a safe haven for half-bloods in which no monsters can enter its bounds. Sally, his mother, drives him and his friend Grover, a satyr, there, but as they approach the borders of the camp they are attacked by a Minotaur. In the ensuing battle, the Minotaur transports Sally to the Underworld and Percy temporarily destroys it. At Camp Half-Blood, he runs into one of his teachers, Mr. Brunner, who is a centaur named Chiron in disguise, and meets Annabeth. Chiron explains to him that Percy is accused of stealing Zeus' master lightning bolt for his father, Poseidon. Percy receives a quest from the Oracle to retrieve the bolt and journeys into the Underworld with Annabeth and Grover, believing Hades to be the thief. As they travel to the Underworld they face numerous mythological monsters, including Medusa, Echidna, and the Furies. When they confront him, Hades denies ever having taken the bolt and claims that his Helm of Darkness is missing as well. Percy finds out that Ares is in possession of the stolen items and wins them in a fight. He returns the helm to Hades, who returns Sally safely, and the bolt to Zeus. He learns afterwards that Luke is the real thief and has been working for Kronos, trying to give him a chance to rise again. Before he leaves the camp, Luke tries to kill Percy using a poisonous scorpion, which Percy kills after Luke leaves.

Iwoeque (talk) 17:26, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Image?
Since this is a US series, wouldn't it make more sense to use the US logo instead of the UK one? Luthien22 (talk) 05:45, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Publisher
The U.S. Library of Congress catalog records for first editions show "Miramax Books/Hyperion Books for Children" for the first three novels (2005 to 2007); vol 4 (2008) "Hyperion Books for Children"; vol 5 (2009) "Disney Hyperion Books".

LCCN "permalink" version of LC Online Catalog records, all for U.S. first editions:, , , ,.

The first part of the numerical lccn ID is the year the catalog record was created; for volumes 1-3-4 only the source must be Cataloging in Publication data provided by the publisher in advance of any copy of the book. Thus I interpret: in writing the publisher provided "Hyperion Books for Children" without mention of "Miramax Books" (a Hyperion imprint) some time during 2007. The records for vols 2 and 5 were created late and very late. At least in the latter case, presumably after receipt of a copy of the book for the library collection and created by examination of the book title page, etc. Thus I suppose: "Disney Hyperion Books" or perhaps "Disney·Hyperion Books" was the name used in that front printed material. --P64 (talk) 01:32, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Religious specifics
Article says "Some critics, especially Christian critics of Riordan have disapproved of the emphasis on pagan gods in his books." This is needlessly broad. The article should identify which Christian denominations have a problem with the books. 73.137.170.88 (talk) 02:41, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, that may be as specific as it gets. It's not really one denomination; and even if it were, critics tend to be individual people who are not necessarily representative of their respective religions. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 20:28, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Anyone familiar with this series care to add it to this list??
Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy series (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain. This series would qualify. Anyone care to add it? Tamtrible (talk) 00:10, 6 August 2017 (UTC)