Talk:Perdicaris affair

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This article makes it appear that TR was angered by the fact that Perdicaris became friends with Raisuli. I had thought that it was the kidnapping that so incensed TR. Which was it? 172.149.28.106 01:16, 23 March 2007 (UTC)RKH

I suppose I am the only one who is astonished that an adulterous woman in 1873 got custody of all her children. There is nothing in his separate Wiki entry that explains anything about it, either - he would either have to have been unfit himself, extremely uncaring or very progressive for this to have happened. Also, the page says that Perdicaris & Ellen were married, and yet calls her "Varley". This is either an anachronism or an anomaly. "Lucy Stoners" were rare, & I have the feeling Ellen wasn't one of them. FlaviaR (talk) 04:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Whose decision was it to delete the separate article on the Perdicaris incident? This incident led to loss of Moroccan life, & was a factor in the loss of Moroccan independance. See e.g. The Proud Tower by Barbara Tuchman (I forget the exact ref)MoFromMelb (talk) 13:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

The article says "By 1862, the family's property in South Carolina was in danger of confiscation by the government of the Confederate States of America. Ion Perdicaris travelled to Greece, intending to renounce his United States citizenship and acquire Greek nationality to forestall any confiscation." The article cites no authority for those sentences. My guess is that the book The Limits of Sovereignty: Property Confiscation in the Union and the Confederacy during the Civil War by Daniel W. Hamilton probably supports the idea that land owned by a citizen of NJ would be subject to seizure. RW7890 (talk) 04:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 1 June 2019

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The result of the move request was: moved to Perdicaris affair. (non-admin closure) —  Newslinger  talk   06:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Ion Perdicaris → ? – Perdicaris was the subject of the Perdicaris Incident, for which he gets his notability. Therefore, the title of the article should be Perdicaris Incident or Perdicaris Affair. Further, he was not the only one involved in the incident, his step-son being involved too. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. DannyS712 (talk) 21:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Support Consistent with WP:SINGLEEVENT. Perdicaris seems to have only received coverage in the context of the kidnapping. Though the article is nominally about him, it would require only relatively minor changes to turn it into an article about the incident (e.g. rename "Family life" to "Background"? Or possibly combine with "Later life" section into a section called "Perdicaris family"?) No strong preference between Perdicaris incident and Perdicaris affair, though an ngram search suggests "affair" might be slightly more common in books, so if I had to pick, I'd go with that. Colin M (talk) 23:59, 1 June 2019 (UTC)


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France to the rescue of Perdicaris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddie891 (talk • contribs) 16:50, 2 June 2019 (UTC)