Talk:Persecution of Christians in the New Testament

Persecution of Paul of Tarsus
Richard, I grabbed this from the Persecution of early Christians by the Romans article to incorporate here, but since this article is (quite wisely) organized by gospel, I'm not sure which section to put it in or if it needs to be split up. It was "fact" tagged in the other article, but if you can find/recall the exact verse & line that'd be great too.
 * The New Testament also records that Paul was imprisoned on several occasions by the Roman authorities. Once he was stoned and left for dead. Eventually he was taken as a prisoner to Rome. The New Testament account does not say what then became of Paul, but Christian tradition reports that he was executed in Rome by being beheaded.

I really appreciate it. - CheshireKatz (talk) 06:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Restored deleted revisions of Ancient persecution of non-Jews by Jews to my userspace
I have restored the deleted article to User:Richardshusr/Ancient persecution of non-Jews by Jews and its Talk Page to User talk:Richardshusr/Ancient persecution of non-Jews by Jews. Please do NOT edit these pages. They are for reference only. If anyone wants to recreate this article, please copy what you need into your own userspace and start a new article from scratch.

Here's the relevant AFD Articles for deletion/Ancient persecution of non-Jews by Jews.

--Richard (talk) 17:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Where it doesn't have refs to outside sources it is mostly linked to existing articles. Seems to state both sides. Tone is a little off like "need to" etc. but not immensely. Could use more material, but like most stubs. So why did it really get deleted? -Bikinibomb (talk) 17:49, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Hold on a second, Richard, I'm not quite sure why you exhumed that page, but a procedure for disputing an article's deletion already exists. If there is a genuine argument for the article's resurrection, please visit Wikipedia's Deletion Review page and post your objection. This goes for both that article's AfD as well as Articles for deletion/Historical persecution by Jews (2nd nomination). I should also point out that there is plenty of room for this content in the Jewish history article, which would be a better forum for this discussion in any case. In its present form, this discussion gives the unfortunate appearance of circumvention of the Deletion Review procedure (unintentionally, I presume). - CheshireKatz (talk) 18:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This is an article about persecution, here is good a place as any to discuss it. There may be too much material added later for merging with Jewish history. -Bikinibomb (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Well no material or citations have been provided thus far, so I don't think arguing that there's too much material is sound. There are a great many articles about persecution, but since the source of this discussion is a historical account of Jewish actions, Talk:Jewish history would be a better venue and would draw more feedback to your comments. This discussion amounts to an article creation proposal that has no bearing on this article, which is about the contents of the New Testament and only the contents of the New Testament. I would prefer not to have to direct the contributors to Talk:Jewish history over to this article for the purpose of discussing a topic that doesn't really belong here in the first place. - CheshireKatz (talk) 20:27, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * no bearing on this article It may if there's a look at Jewish laws and traditions at least previous to the first century in treating those perceived to be false prophets and promoting of false religions in Judaism. So it's more than historical account. Jewish history is too broad a subject for this discussion. We can just shelve it for now until there are changes. -Bikinibomb (talk) 01:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Economic Analysis
Is there any evidence to support an economic analysis?

There is a suggestion in the Gospel of Luke that money was collected from parishioners. This may provide a clue regarding the economic support of the early church and the need to promote it heavily to increase its membership and thereby its income. Such a development may well have upset vested interests.

Is there any evidence to support this view?

In any event, a more rigorous economic analysis is needed.

--Mindline (talk) 22:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)