Talk:Persecution of Uyghurs in China

Excessive references to Adrian Zenz
Adrian Zenz, a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, is referenced 6 times in the Mass detention section and 6 times in the IUDs and birth control section. An over-reliance on research produced by him, despite that he is a heavily interested character in this issue, serves against the credibility and quality of this article. As a leading scholar his findings should be mentioned, of course, but not without qualification or alternative sources and data. NipponGinko (talk) 06:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It’s likely more once you dig into sources as well; there’s a significant degree of circular reporting involving Zenz. I agree with your idea generally but it’s better to approach in a concrete way. What’s the specific edit or edits you want to make to address the issue? JArthur1984 (talk) 14:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * But he's not a "leading scholar" and his evidence has been endlessly debunked. 2001:1C02:3019:2750:B0C0:AADE:226D:66E (talk) 11:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove Radio Free Asia Sources
Government propaganda has no place on Wikipedia. 23.28.148.2 (talk) 14:04, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Per WP:RADIOFREEASIA, RFA is considered reliable: Per the result of a 2021 RfC, editors have established that there is little reason to think RFA demonstrates some systematic inaccuracy, unreliability, or level of government co-option that precludes its use. — Czello (music) 14:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Denial of abuses
Should Uyghur genocide denial have it's own article?, I've seen a fair amount of people on the internet who deny it's happening Consistently Heinous (talk) 21:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I’m not sure there’s enough content on the denial itself to generate a separate article, but it should definitely be included in this one. Butterdiplomat (talk) 23:26, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I concur with Butterdiplomat's doubts about the volume being enough to start a new article. Personally I only know of a handful of 'apologist' news sites. Bear in mind that you will need independent WP:RS saying what person X/organisation Y/ group Z claim is/isn't happening and they would specifically need to say what kind of 'denial' (denial of mistreatment/ or acknowledging mistreatment, but arguing that it doesn't constitute 'genocide' for example). I'm aware of these pitfalls because of similar articles. Pincrete (talk) 05:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Those are straight up tankies and I suggest you sever all contact with them 166.198.175.17 (talk) 07:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 July 2024
Please add Violence against Muslims in independent India and Demolition of the Babri Masjid article in the "See also" section of the article. Just like persuasion has taken place in China against Muslims, similarly, it happens in India too. Its quite similar the way discrimination happens. Thanks 2409:40E0:59:8056:506E:F081:4C96:898F (talk) 17:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Outside the scope of the article – macaddct1984 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:03, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Alleged abuses?
The lead sentence currently says that the Chinese government has committed abuses but the second sentence says that it is an alleged abuse. Could this be clearer? The first sentence should also says that it is alleged to reflect the second sentence and the other material in the article. Swintonswims (talk) 13:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Also, the article refers to other alleged abuses committed by the Chinese government to other ethnic and religious minorities but the article header refers exclusively to alleged abuses of Uyghurs. Is this not out of scope of this article? Should the article header be amended to reflect this? Swintonswims (talk) 13:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)