Talk:Persian palace

--66.81.31.176 18:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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Who the freak cares if this doesn't appear neutral POV to you? It's a pejorative term for goodness sake. Of course it isn't going to be neutral.

One day we shall learn that you can't write anything without a biased POV. Depending upon how you look at a thing, it will always be biased for one direction or another.

This article smacks of POV Bobak 21:27, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Forgot to metion it, but tagged it as totallydisputed. 68.39.174.238 04:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Not Just Persian
Whoever wrote this is obviously only zeroing in on Persians. I'll tell the article's author to take a short trip to Manhattan Beach, a very affluent and 100% WASPy neighborhood just south of Los Angeles, and see the very same gaudy buildings built to the rim of the tiny beach lots, with columns and everything else to go with it.

These palaces are not exclusive of Persians, rather, they are a side effect of fast-earned wealth by residents of LA County.

Of course...
Although that doesn't render the explanation for the term's origins invalid, does it? --Sophistifunk 05:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Misunderstanding?
The term "Persian" refers to the architectural style, not the nationality of the builders... duh! --Janke | Talk 07:45, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Whoa.
Read the article. It's written from a COMPLETELY culturally biased POV. "same as are demolished 'here". This needs to be sorted out.

Please read the references
I recommend reading Karen Alexander's article online. It identified a clear style and the Perisian builder who made it popular. Although these buildings can be defined as "McMansions" there are style cues such and historic references to make them unique. There is also enough information here to show a strong following within a segment of the Persian community for this type of style as well. To say the style doesn't exist is intentionally misleading.

"Anybody can tell which houses are owned by Persians. Whether they are small houses or big houses, they are all the same," says Bijan Dardashti, a Persian competitor of Omrani ''who also designs boxy-style houses in Beverly Hills. He wonders if the City Council's concerns are more cultural than architectural.''

Developer Kamran Younai, who employs Omrani to design and build most of the houses he and his father Albert undertake in Beverly Hills, wonders why the city should be able to ''dictate the style of house that people build. "For every brand new house we build, there's 80 people who can buy this house in a month," says Younai. "There's three people with all-cash offers who are willing to buy it the day you finish it."''

''Omrani takes it all personally. "What's the goal of this design rule? So they can push you into the corner. It's against your style, your culture, your lifestyle," he says.'' "I am target number one, I will tell you that."

The conflict over Persian Palaces have brought up points that touch upon culture, identity, and the rights of homeowners. This is reason enough to keep the article. The Persian builders and owners want to create their own identity and claim that the current architectural guidelines are culturally insensitive. The current residents of Beverly Hills want to protect the character of their neighborhoods from the insensitive builders seeking to tear down the older homes in their neighborhood and replace them with showy oversized homes. Ultimately, I don't think that anyone has the right to build whatever they want anywhere, but we should not be restricted by stringent architectural guidelines. Forcing someone to build with a pitched roof is not going to solve the problem. Controlling density and height restrictions would be more effective.

amr Romero.dc 05:09, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

5000 sq ft Lots?
>>Most of these homes are found on 5,000 square foot lots, in the less spectacular area of Beverly Hills Is that supposed to be 5000 sq ft house, or 5000 sq ft lot ?

==Nothing 'Persian' about it!=

Having travelled extensively throughout Iran many times, there is nothing Persian architecturally or culturally about these homes. If anything, these structures show a complete ignorance of Persian or Iranian architecture!! They are over the top, in completely bad taste architecturally and artistically, and posess none of the beautiful and redeeming qualities of traditional Iranian architecture. It would be preferable if they were labelled what they truly are. Grotesque and greedy excuses to make lots of money. Good architecture? NOT! Persian? ABSOLUTELY NOT!! --66.81.31.176 18:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)Helen

This article could really use a picture. 74.79.161.1 19:01, 5 September 2007 (UTC)