Talk:Personal anthem

Missing info
I've merged royal anthem and Vice Regal Salute into this. I think they belong together, though the name "honors music" is not widespread. There seems to be a distinction in Canada between the "Royal anthem" and the "royal salute"; maybe this applies in all Commonwealth realms. I couldn't find a source for the 6-bars salute for lesser royals that I think applies in the UK. It would also be nice to make more of the fact that national anthems are a historical development from royal anthems. jnestorius(talk) 09:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Also redirected Royal Salute. The bit about Malaysia is interesting if someone can decipher and verify it:
 * However, countries with more than one monarch such as Malaysia, which has 9 Sultans and 3 heads of state, the Reigning King (Yang-dipertuan Agong) is given the National Royal Salute, i.e with only the national anthem playing. The other sultans and heads of state receive the Royal Salute, but following the state, the National Anthem is played first followed by the State Anthem.
 * jnestorius(talk) 06:54, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Historial anthems
Oh, and also, I don't like the historical section. I copied it from the royal anthems page, but they are mostly national anthems rather than specifically royal; that's to say, they datefrom the time when there was no distinction. jnestorius(talk) 09:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Australian state governors
I can't find a cite that the Vice-regal salute applies to all Australian state governors. There are cites for South Australia, WA, Queensland, Victoria. jnestorius(talk) 01:06, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Caribbean protocol
Neither Barbados nor St Lucia specify a salute distinct from the national anthem, as far as I can make out. But the protocol is a little obscure.

Barbados:
 * Normally one verse only and the chorus will be played. Where a shortened version of the National Anthem is played, it shall consist of the first twelve bars of the verse and the last four bars of the chorus.

I think the "shortened version" in the second sentence is the same as the normal version in the first sentence.

St Lucia:
 * All three verses of the National Anthem will be sung. Normally one verse will be played.  It shall consist of the first twelve bars of the anthem unless otherwise stated.

This is oddly phrased. Is it distinguishing a longer sung version from a shorter instrumental salute?

jnestorius(talk) 06:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Kuwait
Kuwait has a "national salute" of the first 6 bars of its anthem, but I don't know what for. jnestorius(talk) 06:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Honours music unknown outside US
In an edit summary restoring to the lead information about use of the term 'honors music' specifically in the United States, the editor making the revert stated "Term 'Honors music' is unknown outside US protocol."

If that is the case, why is this article, which includes information on music played for officials in many countries, titled using the supposedly US-specific term "Honors music"? -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  23:44, 11 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I think the choice of name is fine, as it is about as generic as it can get for a phenomena which doesn't have one single name in all countries. RicJac (talk) 08:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Badonviller Marsch
First point: Should not "Badonviller Marsch" be changed to "Badenweiler Marsch", since as the name of it was changed in 1934, as it is stated in the "Badenviller Marsch" page. Or at least, should it not be to state both names in the "Honors music" page. Second point: The "Badonviller Marsch" page states: "it was used as the official march of Hitler in his role as Führer". Does this not mean that it was used as the march of the person "Hitler", rather than the title "Führer". However In the "Honors music" page in the "Office/rank" column, it is the title of "Führer", rather than the person of "Hitler". If it will be changed, I think that the column title be "Office/Rank/Person" or "Office/rank/person" rather than "Office/rank".--User71131159 (talk) 20:53, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Estonia
Info about Estonia is not correct. Today, Pidulik marss is played : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidulik_marss Porilaste marss has been played only between 1921-1923 for the Head of State of Estonia: https://et.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porilaste_marss See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Björneborgarnas_marsch Merleke5 (talk) 03:31, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Possible Former South Korean Presidential Tribute
I encountered this page on the Korean-language wikipedia: 대통령 찬가, about a presidential salute used until the 90s. Google translating is always inaccurate though doing so tells me that this song was released in 1972, but also used since 1963? Regardless, I found | this from the presidential archives, where if you watch the video with the heading "영상기록", this song plays at 03:25. This at least confirms that the song existed when Park Chung-Hee was inaugurated in 1972. I'm not sure if this counts as honors music, but if so I would like to suggest adding this song to the list. Abyssmanx (talk) 15:32, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Moved
There is no such thing as "Honors music". We can't just make stuff up. // Hippo43 (talk) 08:39, 21 October 2022 (UTC)


 * The article used to say "The term honors music is used by government protocol offices in the United States, especially in the United States armed forces." For cites, see . It is rare, I grant you, but OTOH it means what is described, whereas "personal anthem" appears to mean something different, like theme music, entrance music, leitmotif  jnestorius(talk) 23:55, 1 March 2023 (UTC)