Talk:Pete the Pup

Thanks
Thank you Wikipedia for adding Pete to your online encyclopedia! I know Petey would thank you too :P I'm trying to get Pete the Pup the Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame he most surely deserves! I sometimes wonder how the Our Gang Comedies would be remembered without this much loved dog!?

Thanks to whoever updated and Wikified my original submission, I didn't think it was as easy BUT you found a friend in Pete :)

Thanks!! joey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.129.104.73 (talk) 17:12, 2004 November 25 (UTC)


 * No problem. I've always been an Our Gang / Pete the Pup fan. --b. Touch 03:48, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

???
I removed this...


 * He was also seen in a 1920's cartoon, where he was a live character in Briar Studio's Pete the Pup according to some sources.

...because the grammar is unintelligble, and I can't make any sense of it to copyedit it. Rewrite? --b. Touch 07:18, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --b. Touch 13:44, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Poisoned?
I wanted to clear up "he died after being poisoned by a piece of meat tainted with broken glass. " because glass isn't a poison. But just noting "he ate a piece of meat tainted..." seems to imply that he just happened to eat the meat. But it still seems awkward to say he was "poisoned" by broken glass. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Son of Somebody (talk • contribs) 14:33, 2006 June 11 (UTC)
 * The same idea occurred to me; I think this fixes it. Ewulp 02:20, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I was just stating what Our Gang member Jean Darling had told me. -- spankees 6 September 2007

Tough nut to crack
The Pete page reference which I added some months ago contradicts itself on nearly every major point. In this page, it is asserted that the original Pete's food was intentionally tampered with, but it also asserts that he died of natural causes. It also asserts that Pete's eye circle was natural, as well as asserting that it wasn't natural. Not helpful is the fact that the ring appears in various photos on his left and right eyes, though negative-reversing was pretty common in cinema at that time.

In a word, there's not much truly verifiable info on this page.--Son of Somebody 23:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

There were a number of dogs to play Pete the Pup, the original was Pal The Wonder Dog who supposedly had a natural circle around his eye according to many sources. The other most poplular dog called Lucenay's Peter had the circle added on. Pal died from the glass tainted meat and Lunenay's Pete died naturally. About the circle appearing on different eyes it was because other dogs were used also, some for close-up shots and others for distant shots. The original dogs were all owned and trained by Harry Lucenay's, after he was fired another (bulldog?) was brought in. I got my information from several sources including the Leonard Maltin Our Gang/Little Rascals book and from Our Gang member Jean Darling.--spankees 6 September 2007

Bulldogs
The article says, "Roach used a number of unrelated bulldogs to portray Pete in Our Gang until 1938." Were bulldogs really used to play Pete? --Jagz 22:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought I heard somewhere that Pete was a pit bull. 220.76.15.114 (talk) 17:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

The "Real" Petey
There is much confusion about the several Peteys. This article starts by providing good info about "Pal the Wonder Dog" being the first Petey in the early Our Gang Comedies, and correctly identifies this canine as the famous American Pit Bull with the genuine, near-perfect, natural ring around the dog's eye. Pal, the original Petey, starred almost exclusively in silent films and was killed shortly after the first Our Gang talkies were made. However, this Wikipedia article's info box details the second Petey, or "son of Petey." The second Petey is also shown in the accompanying picture. Basically, if the film is a talkie (with only a couple of exceptions,) it isn't the orginal Petey (AKA Pal the Wonder Dog.) Without clearly discriminating between Petey and "Son of Petey" this article only perpetuates the confusion. I would also point out that a quick visiual "Petey test" is to simply check which eye the ring surrounds. If the ring surrounds the dog's left eye one can be absolutely sure that the dog is not the original Petey (AKA Pal.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.0.42 (talk) 10:22, 15 March 2012 (UTC)


 * After viewings of all of the available Our Gang films, here's what I was able to gather. The first dog to appear in Our Gang was an unnamed pitbull that looked like he could have been related to Pete. Perhaps this was his father. The dog debuted in the earliest Our Gang shorts ("Our Gang", "Fire Fighters"), etc., and continued to make appearances until around 1924. His last appearance in Our Gang was in the short "The Sun Down Limited".

After the first dog's retirement, a dog named Pal was added to the gang. Pal was not a pit bull, and probably not related to Pete. It seems likely that people confused Pal's history with the series' first dog.

Our Gang's first Pete didn't make his appearance until the 1927 short "The Glorious Fourth" (though by production dates, his actual first film with the gang was "Olympic Games"). This was the same Pete that appeared in the Buster Brown series. He was also the Pete that was killed in 1930. His last film was Our Gang's "A Tough Winter". He had the trademark ring around his right eye.

The next Pete to appear in the series had the ring around his left eye. He started out as a puppy in the Our Gang shorts "Pups is Pups" and "School's Out". His last appearance was in 1932's "The Pooch".

The third Pete had the ring around his right eye. He debuted in the 1932 Our Gang short "Hook and Ladder" and made his last appearance in 1938 short "Party Fever".--Comedy3 (talk) 22:00, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

World Oldest Dog?
It says Pete the pup lived from 1922 to 1946. 24 years, I am sure that qualifies him to be considered one of the longest living dogs in history, and possible holder for that time.

Any agreements or disagreements? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.14.39 (talk) 14:40, 2013 March 7 (UTC)

Confusing
This entire article is confusing, it needs a complete rewrite. Its very confusing in multiple places, especially the part fact that the original peteys son is apparently a different purebred dog breed? Pal the Wonder dog is an amstaff but his son is an apbt, then at the side it says ‘gamebred apbt’. Then in the death section it mentions these unrelated dogs and Petey 2 but Petey 1s death is buried in the career section (I don’t think dying was part of his career?). In the ‘in universe’ information it says the dog was an actor, but that bit is supposed to be about the character?? Don’t even get me started on the circled eye bit. The history section has large sections with no sources. Also, ‘Pal first started out as "Tige" in the Buster Brown series in the 1920s. It was during this time that he acquired the circled eye, and when he was recruited to appear in the Our Gang comedies later that year, Hal Roach simply left it on, creating one of the most recognized dogs in film history.’ How did he acquire the circled eye? I thought it was natural!

SpookMew (talk) 17:42, 1 September 2023 (UTC)