Talk:Peter O'Neill

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: moved by. The article previously at this title is now at Peter O'Neill (footballer) (non-admin housekeeping closure). Jenks24 (talk) 22:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

– per WP:PRIMARY. The politician is Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea, the football player was semi-professional at best. Mattinbgn (talk) 21:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Peter O'Neill (politician) → Peter O'Neill
 * Peter O'Neill → Peter O'Neill (football player)
 * Oops, I didn't see this move discussion and just did it myself, it seemed so obvious! --Mkativerata (talk) 21:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
 * Thanks for acting quickly Mkativerata. for the record, the other article was moved to Peter O'Neill (footballer). John Vandenberg (chat) 00:09, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

photograph requested
fyi, I have emailed the Media Unit of the Department of the Prime Minister, requesting a freely licensed photograph. John Vandenberg (chat) 01:13, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No response so far. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:46, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Status as prime minister
In view of some conflicting reports, I have a couple of questions. Firstly, is he the Acting Prime Minister, substantive Prime Minister or is this still a matter for debate? Secondly, is the position of Acting PM a formal post or is this an ad hoc arrangement in the absence or incapacity of the substantive PM? Hack (talk) 01:01, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The infobox and succession boxes have been amended, removing Somare as O'Neill's predecessor. If O'Neill is a substantive rather than acting PM, Abal should not be his predecessor... Hack (talk) 00:42, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The article does not accurate record that O'Neill became PM only through Somare being ruled ineligible to remain as PM - and that determination was itself disputed. In fact the removal of Somare was almost certainly illegal. However arguably the subsequent election of O'Neill cured any irregularities. 122.59.73.31 (talk) 09:56, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Irish? Really?
While the claim to Irish heritage is (thinly) sourced, to me it seems like a case of the Economist seeing an Irish surname and making an assumption. If every article on an Australian with an Irish surname was to be categorised of "Irish descent" - the category would soon lose any usefulness. Unless I see better evidence of Irish heritage - i.e. O'Neill's father was born in Ireland and then moved to Australia before working in PNG - the Irish category should be removed. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 21:25, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd very much hope that of all publications The Economist wouldn't "see an Irish surname and make an assumption". The article concerned betrays an obviously deep knowledge of the country on the part of its anonymous author. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:28, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * So, from the article, what evidence of actual Irish heritage has been provided? Like 40% of Australians, I am of "Irish descent" too but that does not make me an Irish-Australian. I still would like to see actual evidence of the Irish ties rather than a casual mention in an article. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 21:32, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't require reliable sources to provide evidence of their claims. Our acceptance of them as reliable sources is good enough. --Mkativerata (talk) 21:37, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Actually appointed?
Was O'Neill ever actually appointed as prime minister by the Governor General? As the recent ruling of the PNG Supreme Court is being reported, it would seem he wasn't. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  16:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * According to the original reporting, he was sworn in as PM. I may be wrong but the Supreme Court ruling seems to be suggesting that the actions of the speaker were wrong in declaring Somare's parliamentary seat vacant (and therefore ineligible for PM). Hack (talk) 16:23, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I see. When I read about him going to Government House to be sworn-in, that indicated to me that he hadn't previously been, though he was already considered prime minister. In Canada, a prime minister is sworn-in once, regardless of how many elections his party wins or how many times the government wins a confidence vote. -- Ħ   MIESIANIACAL  16:58, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Religion
In case anyone deems it worthy of inclusion, O'Neill is a Lutheran. Aridd (talk) 11:50, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

West Papua
I mean, come on, "By 2017, the Indonesian-led genocide against West Papuan natives peaked with almost 25% of the native population killed within a 50-year period."? I know I have biases but the wording and the sources (Medium, really?) used are just straight up pushing POV. tags can also be given for the previous statement, which probably should be removed altogether or at least reworded and sourced. Juxlos (talk) 05:51, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Lead section
Most of the lead section right now is about his resignation, which doesn't really make sense since he was PM for a number of years - there most be other relevant things to say in the lead. Maybe someone who knows more about him than I do could improve the lead section a bit. Lennart97 (talk) 14:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC)