Talk:Peter Tosh/Archive 1

Music For Old Fogies (2005)
I've never heard of this album, and it looks like graffiti to me, but I want to make sure that's the case before it's reverted. If there is in fact a new release from the Tosh estate, I haven't seen it at my radio station, and I need to pester the music director to get a copy! Bugg42 22:23, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Peter Tosh had an interest in marketing, as his most famous song makes abundantly clear, and as one who works in the field I can say with confidence that it is not credible that anyone would market his music as for old fogeys, whereas an ignorant youth is highly likely to have written such a jape comment. So I didn't bother trying to source it before removal, SqueakBox 23:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I have also heard an album called "Live and Dangerous". It is fantastic, I was surprised to not see it listed in the discography.

Downtrodden etc
Even though I admire Peter Tosh greatly, we could do without the following quote:


 * His lyric "I don't want no peace, I want equal rights and justice!" would become a rallying cry for the world's downtrodden masses.

People over the mental age of 18 tend to sneer at such writing, and they're right. elpincha 21:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not quite sure I agree with your statement but the sentence you found seemed like original research as I am not aware that it or anything Tosh said has has become a rallying cry for the masses. Any mature, over 18's insight is likely to not have that popular feel anyway, "si se puede" etc isnt exactly mature stuff but it seems to win elections, SqueakBox 22:09, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

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Place of death
This doesn't seem to be specified beyond "his house". Since the article doesn't make it clear whether or not he was still living in Trenchtown at the time, this is quite an omission. 86.136.253.86 13:15, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

According to the following link, his house was in Kingston, does not say what part of the city. Mentioned at bottom of page.  --Halmass (talk) 12:26, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Any documentation of the M16 guitar?
I remember seeing photographs of Peter Tosh with a guitar shaped like a M-16 assault rifle. It looked like it had Telecaster pickups and a '70s-style Stratocaster neck. Is there any citable documentation available regarding this guitar? Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 23:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Peter Tosh' height
That surprises me because I didn't know that Peter Tosh is over 6' 3" tall. I almost thought that he is as tall as Bob Marley.

Tosh was the tall one, Marley and Bunny Wailer were both much smaller, SqueakBox 17:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * At the risk of starting a debate, he didn't want peace because he didn't want to live in a world where people of African descent were oppressed, as they were in his time and they were in ours. He was willing to fight for that. I don't agree with him, but it's not very fair to call him a moron.Atinoda 17:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Might I suggest you find and read the full lyrics to the song Equal Rights before you come to a conclusion? In the words of Bob Dylan: "Don't criticize what you can't understand". Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 01:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Style of Music
I am very much a Reggae and Tosh fan however, it has always seemed to me that Peter Tosh's style of music was more funk than reggae. I think the general consensus is and forever will be that music coming from Jamaica, extolling Rastafari, is Reggae music. But I think that if you compare Tosh to George Clinton or Parliament it would hold more similarities than when compared to Bob Marley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.58.1 (talk) 04:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You refer, of course, to when he was a single artist. Afraid i don't really agree, and he certainly identified himself as a reggae musician. but of course his music also had other influences, that is part of what made him a good songwriter. Thanks, SqueakBox 04:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes I am referring to his solo career. Do you not agree with my assertion that his style of music is more funk than Reggae because you do not see the similarities between him and other funk artists like I pointed out? Or do you disagree solely because he was from Jamaica? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.51.58.1 (talk) 06:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Its not because he is jamaican but is based on my knowledge of legalize it and Mama Africa, the 2 albums I know well. Thanks, SqueakBox 00:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

"Negril" is not a Tosh album. He played on the session
Unless every album that Tosh played on is included, Negril should be deleted. It was Eric Gale's project and Tosh was invited to play for it. Nicmart (talk) 07:18, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Discography
The link to "Mama Africa" links to a single by Akon that hasn't come out yet. I suspect this is not true, but I couldn't find an actual Mama Africa page. I didn't try very hard, though. Just pointing that out, this article is pretty good but certainly has room for improvement. Atinoda 17:26, 21 May —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.55.136.218 (talk) 23:32, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011
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 * Allmusic is not a verifiable source, anyway. Really, this article could use alot of work, and I'm surprised there hasn't been more interest. Any good Tosh books out there?--Chimino (talk) 03:19, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

birthdate
i have seen publications listing his birth as April 6th ...


 * The most common date is 9 October, and that's what both our main sources have. I've changed it from 19 October.  --  JackofOz (talk) 01:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

His Birthday is not the 9th, but the 19th of October. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.255.174.27 (talk) 14:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


 * How do you know this? --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  03:19, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Appearance in Rolling Stones video?
The claim that Tosh appears in the Rolling Stones video "Waiting for a Friend" (from Tattoo You) does not seem to hold water. Have a look at the video on YouTube. That is definitely not Tosh. TimDuncan (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * It's him, per the official Rolling Stones website.--Chimino (talk) 22:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, I stand corrected. I guess it must be then, although I still have difficulty seeing it. TimDuncan (talk) 16:47, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

That is definetly Peter in the "Waiting on a Friend " video sitting on the stoop in the the west village. It is the same building that is the Led Zeppelin used as their cover to their Physical Graffiti album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.198.169 (talk) 04:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Intro comments

 * Hope I'm doing this right! :) Just wanted to let you know, the link to the amazing story about how Peter Tosh learned to play guitar appears to be a dead-end page. I was hoping to see the reference. It's quite a story!!Caro biscuit (talk) 04:40, 2 February 2014 (UTC) Caroline Sunshine

To all those who helped write this page: thanks much. All I know about Peter Tosh was when I grabbed a couple of his songs and found them unbelievably moving. It's quite cool to come here and find out more about him.


 * Tosh was the Malcolm X to former bandmate Bob Marley's Martin Luther King, Jr.

I'm really torn on this phrasing. On the one hand, it immediately helped me understand the dynamics described through the rest of the article. On the other hand, though, this is because I already know the relationship between Malcolm and MLK. Perhaps it would be better to describe, briefly, the roles that both Tosh and Malcolm played as compared to the roles that Marley and King played. DanKeshet 18:21 Apr 8, 2003 (UTC)

This sentence makes no sense to me at all. It almost reads that Martin Luther King, Jr was part of Bob's band. Could someone please re-write this sentence so it isn't so ambiguos. What that statement basically means is that Tosh was more openly angry than Marley. Both Tosh and Malcolm X come across as more angry personalities than Marley and King. Common link tho is all wanted the opression to stop.


 * I think it should be removed entirely. The differences between Marley and Tosh are exaggerated in this article.  Both Marley and Tosh supported the rights of indigenous and Black people, and there is no real difference in the level of militancy.  Marley may have been portrayed in a "softer" light than Tosh, but that's largely due to personal styling and marketing, and not substance.  Of course, the differences between MLK and Malcom X are similary exaggerated (the "whitewashing" of MLK), but this article can't assume knoweldge on the topic and therefore the analogy is not clarifying.  Marley and Tosh shared contempt for Babylon, and it's simply not fair to say that one was radical and the other reformist (what this article currently implies)  Bugg42 19:13, 16 October 2005 (UTC)


 * I agree with Bugg42's point, but whoever is above that, I hope you're not a first language English speaker. If you're not, you should know that it's fairly common when comparing dynamics to say "So and so was the so and so to so and so's so and so". Yes I realise that was a long string of the same few words over and over, but you know what I mean. It in no way implies Dr. King was in a band. If you're a first language speaker, read a book, read a book, read a muh-f***in' book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.170.82.30 (talk) 15:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand how he died. Is the article saying he was burgled and killed by one of his personal friends? --Bastie 12:24, 15 August 2005 (UTC) Bastie, it is commonly believed he was assassinated by the CIA for his various militant political views, having just won a major award and experiencing a sudden surge in his popularity at the time. I'll try to find some encyclopedic info on this and post here.

Full name?
We don't currently have a reference for our statement that Tosh's middle name was "Hubert". Britannica has "Hubert", which is probably OK to satisfy WP:RS, but a recent UK lawsuit over the copyright to Bob Marley's work includes an extract from a contract between Island Records and Cayman Music Ltd, which gives his middle name as "Peter" (BAILII report, paragraph 77). Something worth mentioning or following-up? Tevildo (talk) 13:18, 8 June 2014 (UTC)