Talk:Petite messe solennelle

la sacré musique
sacré can be translated with holy, sacred, hallowed but also blasted, damned. In this context "sacré" is more likely the opposit of sacred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geichler (talk • contribs) 12:50, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Original name
I would like to see mentioned that the French write fr:Petite messe solennelle, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Music analysis section added from French article
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hpschd76 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)‎

First public performance of the orchestrated version
The date for this according to multiple sources was 24 February 1869—not 28 February as was in the article. I've fixed that. The current reference (Hurwitz, 2010) also gives the 24th. It was performed in the Salle Ventadour of the Théâtre-Italien in Paris. This is an online reference you can use for the exact theatre:
 * Casaglia, Gherardo (2005). 24 Febbraio 1869. Almanacco Amadeus. Retrieved 30 May 2016.

I didn't add it myself because the referencing format is rather complicated and I didn't want to make a mess of it. Voceditenore (talk) 05:09, 30 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you, especially for the date, - I saw both and should not have drawn conclusions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

A nudge in the (hopefully) right direction
I see that the ever helpful has kicked off the GA review. I'll assist here by noting some minor observations:


 * Publication
 * The end of the first para will need a cite.
 * duplicated --GA


 * "...by Oxford, Carus-Verlag and Novello, the latter however again has only one piano part." --Awkward. I'd remove "however again", or separate each with commas.
 * tried differently to say politely that one is a disappointment --GA


 * Scoring
 * "In its original version, the performance of the mass required four soloists (soprano, contralto, tenor and bass), a mixed choir of ideally twelve singers including the soloists, two pianos and harmonium, which sometimes could be replaced by an accordion, according to the first idea of Rossini, but was considered too "popular" for a religious framework at the time of the creation." -- a little too long for comfortable reading.
 * that was one of the sentences from the version before I expanded, - feel free to improve --GA


 * "In 1867..." -- Comma? Or no comma?  Used elsewhere, but not here.  It should really be consistent.
 * it's a repetition from the history section, - I sometimes place a comma for clarity, no comma for speedier flow, - sorry that inconsistency is one of my trademarks ;) --GA


 * Structure
 * End of first para closes with no cite.
 * now has one to the preface of the vocal score, which is the only place where that (Part I/II) is mentioned, it begins with "I Kyrie", but followed by "2 Gloria", and never a "II". --GA

More, anon...  Cassianto Talk   08:38, 2 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for thorough reading before I could even something about recordings, - possibly tomorrow ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 2 June 2016 (UTC)