Talk:Petty officer second class

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 * Does anyone know exactly how many months/years are required at PO3 before they're eligible to take PO2 exam? My memory is faulty, but I think it was 2 years. - Wguynes 02:50, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Here are the Time In Rate (TIR) Requirements for U.S. Navy Enlisted Advancements (given in months):

SR to SA = 9 (w/No exam); SA to SN = 9 (w/No exam); SN to PO3 = 6; PO3 to PO2 = 12; PO2 to PO1 = 36*; PO1 to CPO = 36*; CPO to SCPO = 36 (w/No exam); SCPO to MCPO = 36 (w/No exam). *May be waived up to 1 year for Early Promotes (EP's) for advancement to PO1 or CPO only. Source = U.S. Navy Advancement Center

Based upon educational background, work background or incentives for advanced training, certain recruits may enter the Navy as SA or SN.


 * I used the insignia from the insignia table page. They're rather small and lacking in detail for use here, but better than nothing.  If anyone finds higher quality, larger, and consistent-looking insignia for all the navy enlisted, please feel free to replace these.  I think leaving the table page as the small ones is best, however, due to server load. - Wguynes 02:50, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)


 * 12 months/1 year is required at E4 before one is eligible to take the E5 exam or advance in any way beond the rank of PO3. -May 30th, 2005

Ok, re-corrected (again) some false information regarding the crow. By the way, people, dungarees are pretty much gone. I haven't actually seen a pair in the past few years. And their replacement, utilities, are pretty much on their way out, too. Izuko 14:15, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Took out the following passage:

"This rank is highly desirable for many first term sailors, because it allows them to receive Basic Allowance for Housing, or BAH, thus allowing them to move off-base."

This is not universal and is up to the command of the respective unit to decide what criteria are to be met to receive Basic Allowance for Housing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.81.141 (talk) 06:50, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I dunno about that. Getting BAH was probably the biggest thing I was excited about when I got E-5, as it was with most people I knew who were getting E-5. It is a huge deal, and your command is almost always going to approve it. Supergoalie1617 (talk) 18:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

ESWS Pin
A line reads "For those enlisted sailors who qualify for the Surface Warfare insignia, the Enlisted Surface Warfare Specialist Badge can be earned after reaching at least the grade of PO2." Unless I am reading this wrong, this statement is incorrect. You don't have to be a PO2 to get your ESWS pin, you can have it at any rank. I've seen E-2's and E-3's wearing them. If I'm somehow horrifically reading this wrong let me know, otherwise I'll go ahead and remove the line in a couple days. Supergoalie1617 (talk) 22:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Gold crows
It's been a very long time since I was in the Navy, but back then a second class with gold crows was hard to imagine. I never saw one. I made second in a little over two years (Viet Nam). To still be E-5 after twelve years would have meant one of two things. Either you hadn't had good conduct or you were so incompetent that the last time you tried to ship over the Navy would have declined. Perhaps the article should point out the rarity of this occurring. Toyokuni3 (talk) 19:50, 8 November 2022 (UTC)