Talk:PewDiePie/Archive 2

Please fix his residence
Pewdiepie currently lives in Los Angeles, California. I've seen his series Scare Pewdiepie and also in a lot of his vlogs he's in the US — Preceding unsigned comment added by DMailloux01 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 19 November 2016 (UTC)


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Deleting channel at 50 million subscribers
I thought it would be a good idea to include a statement from PewDiePie regarding him deleting his main channel, then creating a new one once he reaches 50 million subscribers.

Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-_4Uoo_7Y4&t=3s

https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/804807437320654848 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zuxoq (talk • contribs) 07:32, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
 * No need to hurry. We'll see.--Sakretsu (talk) 12:44, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2016
68.84.249.199 (talk) 00:48, 9 December 2016 (UTC) PewDiePie just quit YouTube, so he's no longer active. he deleted his YouTube channel, and is no longer the most subscribed person on YouTube. YouTube accused him of his race.

So it should say the years active: 2010-2016.

He's no longer doing YouTube.

So his article needs a major change.


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Additionally his channel isn't deleted, and there isn't any claim from YouTube about his channel ever going to be deleted in relation with his race.  Adog 104  Talk to me 01:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Parents refused support
Needs citations. A lot of stuff needs citations. 85.228.26.107 (talk) 15:22, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It has a citation already. Ref #25, the 2015 ESPN one by Wayne Drehs. Soulbust (talk) 22:38, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

50 million Ruby "Play Button"?
In a recent video, he unboxes his 50-million-subscriber YouTube Ruby "play button/award", but on Wikipedia, it only shows up to the 10-million-subscriber Diamond play button. Is there any chance that it will be included? 08adamsm (talk) 09:25, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

2.2.5 Publication of a youtube video calling to kill Jews
On January 11, 2017, PewDiePie published a video on youtube in which an individual holds a panel with the inscription "Death to all Jews" (11 minutes 30 seconds into the video). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtxXKezbQ9w&t=692s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:120B:C3C0:72A0:412A:EFDF:4579:1752 (talk) 18:42, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Most viewed channel
So we have a source that says PewDiePie passed RihannaVEVO on July 19, 2014. Now for emimusic, they had 6.4 billion views on September 22, 2014. PewDiePie had 6.1 billion views on this date.

Obviously PewDiePie eventually surpassed emimusic, but the question now is when? And what source is there that shows this? Soulbust (talk) 00:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2017
Yes, I think I should be able to give some insight into Felix with since I've been with him since 7,000 subscribers (quite literally ) with inside facts that have not yet been added to this page of Wikipedia. Possible maybe even correct some false facts if detected. - FixerUpper FixerUpper (talk) 15:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2017
One particular line involving 'Appearances in other media' is a bit outdated. It says PewDiePie starred in the 2013 and 2014 Youtube Rewind. He has since appeared in that same series in 2015 and 2016. Lewgi (talk) 16:50, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
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Wrong use of citing (96)
I'd like to note something about the first sentence displayed under Controversial videos and network drop (2017–present):

"In January 2017, PewDiePie began to receive criticism for his non-gaming videos. In one, he seemingly uses the racial slur, nigga"

The source it lists (96) is an article by the International Business Times. This is not actually the case. If you read the article, you find it is itself actually referencing the Sun. I don't think I have to explain why referencing an accusation by the Sun and using the word 'seemingly' appears a bit dubious here. In any case, if this line stays the same it is, source 96 should be changed to the appropiate Sun article the IBT is referencing:

I argue that source should be listed for the claim. Moreover, it is offencing to readers to actually read the racial slur used.

"In January 2017, PewDiePie began to receive criticism for his non-gaming videos. He was accused of using an offensive racial slur in one."

(96) > https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2550564/pewdiepie-slammed-after-appearing-to-say-n-in-video-seen-by-2-7-million-people/

Leonklomp (talk) 12:40, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia isn't censored and it shouldn't be sugarcoated. I don't see a problem with including the word in this encyclopedic context. However, I also don't see any real problem with the tweaked wording. Again though, Wikipedia is not censored. Soulbust (talk) 14:22, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2017
There is debate around whether Felix posted anti-semitic content. I think that to say he posted content that was anti-semitic is misleading. I would like to change wording in a sentence of the the 3rd paragraph of the article which is currently:

"As a result of an early 2017 controversy revolving anti-Semitic content and statements PewDiePie made, the Disney-operated Maker Studios ended their partnership with him, dropping him from their network. While he defended his content as jokes that were taken out of context, he conceded it offensiveness."

TO

As a result of an early 2017 controversy revolving around traditional news outlets' perceptions that PewDiePie made anti-Semitic content and statements; the Disney-operated Maker Studios ended their partnership with him by dropping him from their network. While he defended his content as satire that was taken out of context, he did concede that it could be considered offensive.

I believe it to be more accurate. Coltranedis (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
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 * The current As a result of an early 2017 controversy revolving purported anti-Semitic content and statements PewDiePie made, the Disney-operated Maker Studios ended their partnership with him, dropping him from their network. While he defended his content as jokes that were taken out of context, he conceded its offensiveness. wording is fine to me (biased opinion, I admit, since I wrote it). But now that another editor added the word purported, it's definitely fine in my opinion, especially because of the mention of his defense of the jokes.


 * I'm thinking about creating another article (perhaps titled 2017 PewDiePie anti-Semitic controversy or something along those lines). I think a separate article is looking like it'll be needed as to avoid undue weight on this one. The amount of content on this article is fine as is, but there's more information that could be added. Especially the opinions of media outlets and fellow YouTubers.Soulbust (talk) 00:33, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I added some notable reactions from other YouTubers which got attention from the media (Gizmodo so far). As for a separate article it does not seem necessary (yet). PewDiePie's response is almost entirely quoted inline in the current paragraph, with some repetitive statements. This can be shortened if need be. PS thanks for the improvements. Saturnalia0 (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Yeah, just noticed that addition; tweaked it a bit. And yeah I agree that we don't (yet) need a separate article. But, we'll see how it develops it the coming days or weeks. Soulbust (talk) 00:47, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * With the amount of coverage this got, especially after PDP made his own response I'm think perhaps it would be warranted to make a separate article. I think the Kuchera & Wallenstein quotes that I reverted (as to not create undue weight) are worthy of mentioning/including, but in a separate article. Thoughts? Soulbust (talk) 16:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Some references about his latest reply criticizing the WSJ and "the media", for anyone interested: Fortune The Verge Forbes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saturnalia0 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 16 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd suggest removing the sentence "While he criticized the coverage of the situation and defended his content as jokes that were taken out of context, he conceded its offensiveness." Just seems like undue weight for the intro.  K . Bog  02:35, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I can kinda see your point. But I also see where that sentence really complements the sentence before it, even in the intro. I think it adds another layer of objectivity in the intro. But I'm open to a discussion on whether or not to keep that sentence in. I'm thinking slight keep for now. Soulbust (talk) 04:05, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2017
Under the section "Public image and influence," 2nd paragraph, first sentence, "Generation C" is written with a link to the "Generation Z" Wikipedia page. The "C" typo needs correcting. Smirc74 (talk) 13:53, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It is not a typo, it is an actual quote. Google refers to 'the group' as "Generation C", and page is redirected to Generation Z.  DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  14:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Maker "dropping" PewDiePie
PewDiePie's channel is still linked to Maker's YouTube account (or Maker are still taking ad revenue for his videos). Surely, after a few weeks of being "dropped" his account would be released. Is it accurate to suggest that he's no longer part of the network as the infobox and the text in the article says? (For evidence, see line 102 of the source code for the watch page for his latest video). Skymann102 (talk) 09:42, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

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Hi the can this video has 1.4 million + comments not 5 million +. Please fix. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.158.62.82 (talk) 21:58, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Unjustified length and detail in the article
I think that this article is a disturbing example of how easy it is for articles on WP to become bloated due to editors lacking a sense of perspective, much less brevity. The article, as it stands on 8 April 2017, is 8,200 words long (excluding the references). Remember, this is an article about a guy who makes videos of himself playing games or watching others play games, and posts them on YouTube. Anyone who is oblivious to the absurdity of that scale isn't objective enough to edit on WP. In comparison, take the article on T.S. Eliot -- a man whose original creative output made him one of the 20 or so most important (even revolutionary) literary figures of the past century. Despite the article on Mr. Eliot being exhaustive, it is but 7,900 words long; shorter than Mr. Kjellberg's. Mr. Eliot and his work will be remembered and read for centuries to come. Can that be said of "PewDiePie"? I hardly think so. I would argue that it's important for editors to not conflate their personal enthusiasm for or attachment to the subject matter, with its relative notability; one does not confer the other. To think that it's important to list what other YouTube videos Mr. Kjellberg may have made "guest appearances" in, and similar inclusions of utter trivia, discredits WP in the marketplace of ideas, and trivializes the value of knowledge itself. Remember: just because one can include something, and just because there happens to be a second-party source for it, does not mean that it ought to be added. Bricology (talk) 10:12, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Feel free to expand the articles you think are more important. Saturnalia0 (talk) 16:24, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Way to spectacularly miss my point, Saturnalia0. Not only do I have no interest in getting into some kind of length-race of ever-expanding content, but that tack would violate WP's (eminently sensible) guidelines on concision.  One doesn't convey more information by providing longer articles; one conveys it by getting to the substance without submerging it in a morass of text.  So again, I would ask that editors independently use good judgement about what they decide to add to an article, rather than simply adding trivia and cruft.  It's tiresome to have to go in and start challenging every fucking sentence on the grounds of WP:N, but if that's what it takes to rein-in people's thoughtless exuberance, then so be it. Bricology (talk) 06:46, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Bricology, I would say the main reason someone like Pewdiepie has more words, less detail etc is because of his extreme popularity in modern society. And, like many other things these days, word travels fast. Thus, this prompts users to add trivia etc, which I agree is completely unnecessary. Whilst I agree the article is bloated with unneeded Infomation and the like, it's unlikely to stop anytime soon.

Sorry if I missed any core points btw. Empoleonmaster23 (talk) 13:45, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Trimming is needed, and maybe is interested to do it again as he did in September 2015.--Sakretsu (talk) 16:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I think the Controversial videos and network drop section can be trimmed to be more concise and focused. Aside from that, you're really going to have to discuss what specifically it is you would like to trim out, because it all seems to check out as valid for inclusion. Perhaps his pugs in the Personal life section? Although the inclusion of that one sentence doesn't seem to be offensive. As always, I'm open to discussion and compromise. Have a great day. Soulbust (talk) 21:16, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


 * OMG--we have 130k on a YouTuber? And this was a GA when, in March 2015, at 60k? And it's Soulbust who has more than doubled this in size, making it into nothing more than a fan site? "extreme popularity in modern society"--my foot. Popular YouTuber or whatever, sure--for whatever that's worth. Well, I have two, related, suggestions. a. restore this version, the one that passed GA; b. re-review its GA status, which will likely lead to removing the GA star. Drmies (talk) 19:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. I wouldn't mind it undergoing another GA review, and listening to the feedback needed to help keep it at GA status. It's been 2 years, so obviously a lot more would occur since then such as his YT Red series, his 2 video games, his YouTube channel's history from 2015 to 2017 (including the whole controversy). That's not even including new information about his early life and education popping up. Like I said, I'm always open to discussion and compromise, and I should add I'm also open to restructuring the article and helping edit it out. Soulbust (talk) 12:11, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, you're giving me way too much credit. I'm not the only one who has edited this article since March 2015. If you read anything that you think makes this article "into nothing more than a fan site", you delete it, and obviously based off of several factors, we'll see if its removal was warranted or not. Soulbust (talk) 12:16, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2017
Change PewDiePie Image from PewDiePie at PAX 2015 to PewDiePie Current Look Braincain007 (talk) 19:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Do you have a better image that complies with the image use policy? &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 19:32, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Another racial slur?
Apparently last time he said it, the conclusion was that it failed the notability test. But for the past week, all the headlines about Felix have been about him saying the N-slur on a stream, (and then the developer of the game Firewatch, Campo Santo, successfully filing a DMCA takedown against all videos of him playing the game in response to him saying it, and then his video apology for saying it). Here are a couple of those articles: etc etc etc 24.45.249.139 (talk) 01:22, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/10/pewdiepie-is-back-making-more-racist-comments/
 * http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/11/youtube-star-pewdiepie-uses-n-word-during-live-stream-causes-uproar.html
 * http://time.com/4935548/pewdiepie-racial-slur-live-streaming-youtube/
 * https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/09/12/there-are-no-excuses-for-it-pewdiepie-apologizes-for-saying-the-n-word-in-a-youtube-livestream/
 * http://www.salon.com/2017/09/15/pewdiepie-is-the-troll-that-far-right-trolls-aspire-to-be_partner/
 * http://variety.com/2017/digital/news/youtubes-pewdiepie-apologizes-for-using-the-n-word-im-just-an-idiot-1202555309/
 * https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/11/pewdiepie-racism-youtube-games-industry
 * http://mashable.com/2017/09/11/pewdiepie-racial-slur-firewatch-videogame-n-word/#oqLDG7bCCOqf


 * Relevant information about the slur is already under PewDiePie --
 *  Adog 104  Talk to me 01:27, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
 * whoops guess I'm blind 24.45.249.139 (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Nah, you're good! Things will occasionally go over people so don't worry, especially us editors. :)  Adog 104  Talk to me 01:45, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2017
Issaplane (talk) 18:32, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Hi There. I noticed the "appeals strongly to younger viewers" in the PewDiePie section is a close paraphrase to its original source. Please correct, thanks!

Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2017
Update the pictures and some information. MihiPihiFTW (talk) 16:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
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Close paraphrase
Hi There. I noticed the "appeals strongly to younger viewers" in the PewDiePie section is a close paraphrase to its original source. Please correct, thanks! --Vivian079 (talk) 18:42, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Reversion concerns and a suggestion
So I'm not going to be baited into a 3 revert situation. Grayfell seems to be inserting some bias against PewDiePie and his fans when making reversions on this article. I'm taking this to the talk page, because it is rather frustrating as an editor who has worked immensely on this page, to have sourced/referenced material be consistently reverted. I strive to keep the PewDiePie article as neutral/encyclopedic/unbiased as possible. I also would like to just clarify, that while it seems there may be some bias motivating these reversions, I cannot confirm that for certain, and I would not like to have me speculating this be conflated with any ill-intent toward Grayfell.

I've been thinking about (for months now, really) creating a separate, relatively short, yet concise, article on the whole anti-semitism controversy and "Adpocalypse" fallout/implications that resulted from it. I feel like the Ben Fritz tweets and the Kotaku source would fit a lot better on that article (in terms of focus), and it wouldn't make the section relating to the controversy drag out so much as it does in this article. Now that being said, I strongly disagree with the reversion made by Grayfell.

Grayfell's reasonings behind reversions have been:
 * "Ironically" is editorializing language. The Sun is not a reliable source.
 * In response to those concerns, I switched out "ironically" for "additionally, it was noted..." and I also trimmed the content to just make it more concise.
 * Not good enough though apparently, as Grayfell replies: This is still editorializing. Who "noted" this, and why does that belong here?
 * Genuinely did not know of the policy on "noted" or "notably"; definitely used it here as a synonym for reported... & to answer those questions: 1) Kotaku noted it (and contrary to what Grayfell would subsequently say, Kotaku is in fact a good reference, particularly for this article due to the article's relevance to video games, and the fact that Kotaku is a leading outlet in video game journalism). 2) It belongs in this article (or rather, in the separate article I'm suggesting) because of the relevance of Fritz's Twitter jokes to the context of the entire controversy, which is: mainstream media/journalistic outlets putting out hit/takedown pieces on PewDiePie which misled readers since their pieces took key points in PewDiePie's videos out of context. The relevance with Fritz's tweets is that they too can be criticized for a strikingly similar reason he criticized PewDiePie.
 * Okay, so in response to that, I tweaked the wording to have it read "Additionally, Kotaku reported..."
 * But apparently that is not good enough because as Grayfell says: "This is one tweet from 2009, listed as an example by Kotaku of overzealous fans digging for dirt. WIthout a better source/context it doesn't belong."
 * I didn't know that just because the tweet is from 2009, it somehow invalidates the point or its brief mention in this article? The article read that his [PewDiePie]'s fans criticized Fritz for the joke, which Grayfell seems to agree with by calling them "overzealous fans digging for dirt." Yes, that's the point; PewDiePie's fans & impartial people criticizing the WSJ piece for its flaws, wanted to hold Fritz accountable for journalistic integrity and criticize Fritz for (I suppose, alleged) hypocrisy. And that's due to the fact that he made an antisemitic tweet/joke aimed at Jews, yet was involved in writing a huge piece taking PewDiePie's content out of context, and criticized PewDiePie's jokes/points that are aimed to convey just how ridiculous and over-the-top the Internet can be. (Whether the reader disagrees or agrees with PewDiePie's point, or the manner in which he went about trying to make that point or his jokes, is besides the point when it comes to editing this article). So, that's the context/reasoning as to why the existence of Fritz's antisemitic joke tweet should be mentioned; I should also mention that with the inclusion of that, should also come the inclusion of the criticism Fritz received for that tweet and who/where that criticism came from (PewDiePie's fans/supporters).

Overall, it's really concerning seeing how something that's actually sourced by a respected outlet in video game journalism (Kotaku) is being reverted despite efforts to make the wording and content of the article as impartial as possible. I mean, "without a better source/context it doesn't belong"... what better source is needed for a video game article past a reputable, journalistic video game outlet like Kotaku? As for better context, I agree. I didn't want to extend this section in this article—to create that better context—as it would create a heavily undue weight in this article, as well as a lack of focus in general. So that's why I'm suggesting something along the lines of PewDiePie antisemitic content controversy. There are many more sources that are not included in this article that could be included in the one I'm suggesting to be created, so I really do think it could stand on its own 2 feet and pass GNG.

Any thoughts & comments would be appreciated.

Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 10:11, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Wow, this is a lot of text. I'm sorry, I'm not going to be able to give this response the same level thoroughness.
 * The original content and its citation to The Sun were not usable at all for many reasons, which I think we can both accept.
 * The Kotaku source is usable, but it did not support the attached statement. It strongly appeared that it was used as a replacement for the Sun source without actually recontextualizing it sufficiently. The Kotaku source mentions one tweet which is about Hanukkah, from 2009. This joke is, to me at least, about latkes. As a non-Jew who's also been to Hannukah parties, this seemed mostly anodyne (and funny). I guess it could instead be about... the Holocaust? Really? Is that where we're going with this? Okay, sure. I suppose that's an interpretation that could be made, but it is not up to us as editors to make any interpretation at all. Do you see the problem? The Kotaku source does not call this one tweet anti-semitic at all, nor does it say anything about him making multiple such tweets, nor any jokes about Nazis. Saying that PewDiePie's fans picked up on the jokes and began accusing Fritz of hypocrisy is non-neutral in the extreme, because "picked-up" implies that they were correct in their assessment. This is not Wikipedia's place to say. There's a lot of problems with this sentence, and the entire thing is strikes me as petty gossip anyway. If you really want to include this, do the work of including that context, also.
 * As for "noted", I don't think you quite understand my point. WP:CLAIM lays it out better, but the point is not that we should never use "noted", only that we should limit it to non-controversial clarifications where it's obvious or totally irrelivant who is doing the noting. If Kjellberg "notes" something, like his own childhood interests, that's perfectly fine since that's within his right to clarify. Whether or not that kind of detail belongs at all is another matter, though.
 * If you want to make insinuations and speculations about my motives, go elsewhere or just keep it to yourself. This is about discussing how to improve the article. Saying "I don't want to speculate" is not a valid excuse for casting aspersions. Grayfell (talk) 21:04, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, and as for a new spin-out article on the controversy and "adpocalypse", that seems like it would invite a constant stream of WP:POVFORK issues. There are also WP:FRINGE issues with the Adpocolypse, as it's buried in a lot of conspiracy theories. The reliable sources I've seen tend to treat it skeptically or as youtube drama, which doesn't belong here. Adpocalypse currently redirects to Censorship of YouTube, and that seems like a much more neutral approach. Those are just some concerns, I think such an article could potentially be handled well if enough quality sources could be found. Grayfell (talk) 22:39, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. And yes, I know this is about improving the article; I've worked on this particular article for years now, and have done as much as possible to keep the article as encyclopedic as possible. I don't think the Fritz joke really belongs in this article, as it makes the article suffer somewhat from a lack of focus. I may (& probably will) work on a draft of an article that would cover the controversy & "adpocalypse" situation, but that would be a few weeks/months down the line with my current off-wiki schedule.


 * You also seemed to comment on the joke's intent as well, and I agree that it is not Wiki's place to say the intent of Fritz's jokes, but rather include what credible/reputable sources report on related to the joke. Yes, it does seem like some individuals may have interpreted the tweet as a Holocaust joke (given how Fritz has also made tweets like this). But again I agree, it's not our place as editors on Wikipedia, or Wikipedia's place as an encyclopedia, to assume or interpret the meaning of jokes/tweets.


 * Thanks again on the "noting" information. Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 09:28, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2017
Hey! The image used on the front page is outdated and does not nearly resemble PewDiePie's current appearance. I recommend you change the current image to this 300px BoltznNutz (talk) 05:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC) BoltznNutz (talk) 05:36, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
 * ❌ Cullen328  Let's discuss it  05:48, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Word choice correction
The words "becoming disinterested" should be replaced by (e.g.) "losing interest". To become "disinterested" is to become more objective or less swayed by personal preferences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.180.48.163 (talk) 14:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

PewDiePie in YouTube Rewind
Pewdiepie has only appeared in 2013 until 2016, and didn’t get invited to 2017? Jeff-ma-boi (talk) 03:13, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 January 2018
Change 57M subscribers to 59M subscribers. As of Jan 5, 2018. 112.206.110.236 (talk) 15:02, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
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no. of views 16 billion to 17 billion. 178.152.81.21 (talk) 15:27, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2018
I request that "Nice guy PewDiePie" shall be added as an alias. Verysadeyes (talk) 18:24, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: I do not see a source for this. qwerty6811 :-) (talk) 19:42, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Memes
Wow there's no one talking here. Anyway, We should update the article to reflect his current style of videos as he has changed the style yet again to meme comedy (even creating the "But can you do this" meme). He has four series on his channel:
 * You Laugh You Lose - A basic Try Not To Laugh series where he watches a playlist of humorous videos and attempts to not laugh.
 * Meme Review - As the title suggest, he reviews various memes on a scale of 1-10.
 * LWIAY - Originally a humorous clone of Jacksfilm's YIAY (as in, he copied it as a joke), the show has evolved into him reacting to various memes his viewers submitted via Reddit.
 * Pew News - I don't even know if he's gonna continue it, but he reports YouTube news (the first episode being Logan Paul's return to America) while throwing in humor.

I made some edits, but they got reversed because I never listed any sources thus violating WP:GF. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DatGuyonYouTube (talk • contribs) 17:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * The "But can you do this" meme is mostly in house. I.e. not a true meme as it would not be recognised outside of his audience. As for adding any other other categories, they would need to be written about in articles or criticism in order to be proved as notable. —   IVORK  Discuss 22:06, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Is any of those things relevant? This is an encyclopedia. Saturnalia0 (talk) 00:21, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2018
"In early 2015, Nintendo launched its Creator Program, in order to share revenue with YouTube video creators who feature gameplay of their products in videos.[140] PewDiePie joined various gamers in criticising the programme."

I think "programme" should be changed to "program", since the word is used referring to the "Creator Program" and should be changed to match. Bezoomy5 (talk) 02:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per the talk page header this article is written in UK English, so "programme" is the correct common noun, and "program" is correct when part of the larger proper name "Creator Program". &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 14:18, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

The rest of the article uses "program" about 7 times, should that be changed? Bezoomy5 (talk) 19:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅  – Thank you for pointing out this discrepancy. '''[[User:Life of Tau|Life ]][[User talk:Life of Tau|of ]]Tau''' 09:45, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2018
After the controversy arising from his PUBG stream, he has made all of his content family friendly. Bphunt (talk) 08:14, 17 May 2018 (UTC) More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:55, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2018
I have know a lot about Pewdiepie and I don't mind adding some stuff that you forgot. ForrestTheFoongie (talk) 01:57, 23 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: You'll need to list it and provide reliable sources first. After you do, the info will be vetted, and if it checks out, it may be added. —C.Fred (talk) 02:00, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2018
I would like to make a change because he is also famous for his Humbleness as you can see he made a video about it too. called humble youtubers Slothboy68 (talk) 19:20, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:32, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

There's a deceptive website in the description that is named " pewdiepie.net "
There's a deceptive website in the description that is named " pewdiepie.net " — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.149.66.151 (talk) 06:09, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't see that. The word PewDiePie is used 427 times on this article, but there is no mention of pewdiepie.net CryMeAnOcean (talk) 06:15, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Justification of Unreliable Source template
There were actually less unreliable sources before your edits, so I think the tag is justified. Unreliable sources in this article are : The amount of Itunes sources really needs to go down, this is the main problem. &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  10:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC) &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  10:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * ITunes
 * Youtube (It's a youtuber, so I'll let this one slide)
 * Twitter


 * Cool. So, I've removed the iTunes sources (along with the entire Discography section as a whole, as I think listing all of his songs would be a little crufty. Unless he begins to release albums or land on some charts like Billboard, I believe it would just be fluff in this article). As for the YouTube sources, I think they should be fine beyond just PDP being a YouTuber. I think they have a strong justification for being in this article (they do not violate WP:SELFSOURCE). I think the about pages are obviously fine, and as for the videos many of them simply confirm dates, provide examples (as with the Stop Doing This video from 2016), or clarify or expand on information sourced by third-party reliable sources (as with Before I Was Famous or My Response videos). Finally, there is now 1 Twitter source used in the article (the Slogoman tweet), and I'm working on finding a replacement source for it.


 * I figure once it's just the YouTube sources, the tag can be removed? Soulbust (talk) 11:51, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * When Youtube is the only user-generated source, the tag can be removed. &raquo; Shadowowl  &#124;  talk  13:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe the 2 Tumblr posts (via his own Tumblr) that are used in conjunction with 3rd-party reliable sources should be okay too, no? They offer direct responses/quotations from PewDiePie and again, they don't violate WP:SELFSOURCE. If not, I'll see if I can rework the information without using the sources, but I truly believe they should be fine/acceptable in this article. Soulbust (talk) 04:01, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Lead
I think the lead might be a little too long, though I'm not certain. Abequinn14 (talk) 03:49, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I trimmed it a bit. Soulbust (talk) 14:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2018
Died: July/24/2018 Cause of death: Sugondese + Ligma Ligma Ninja Pediepie (talk) 13:53, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DRAGON BOOSTER   ★  14:58, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Him dying of Sugondese and Ligma is a meme and not a real event. 344917661X (talk) 21:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2018
Anonyomous922 (talk) 09:55, 16 September 2018 (UTC)pewdiepie is a entertainer to various teenagers and is also an influencer.He has taught teens about his signature move "THE BROFIST".It resembles a friendly gesture and a good way to start a conversation for shy youngsters.
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 14:21, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2018
PewDiePie hase 67 million subscribers EditingEditer (talk) 20:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌. At the time I looked (just now) his YouTube channel says 66,965,045 subscribers. Fish +Karate  13:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2018
Add subscriber counts for his 2nd channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgvZXTuGMG7DjMP_9eiWhBQ) and his 3rd channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs9RgqNAsV5h8A5ipN3K9Og) 2600:1700:2DF0:E30:C472:9D03:F418:888F (talk) 02:47, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  15:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2018
There should be an addition so it has a change of sub counts every week. Primal-Rayquaza (talk) 04:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. if you'd like to make an edit request every week, or create a bot to update the number (as long as it gets approved) that's fine, but please don't use this template to request that some else update the article every week by finding the number of subscribers themselves. DannyS712 (talk) 05:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Picture
I think we should use a more recent picture. (AtlantisUchiha (talk) 09:42, 16 December 2018 (UTC))
 * Unfortunately the only time the image can be updated is when someone freely releases a new one (Ie it needs to be a Creative Commons licence, We can't just take one off of the internet, So unless Pewds releases one himself or if someone freely releases one themselves then there's not much we can do, Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 13:24, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Discography missing information
Previously to bitch lasagna, Jabba the hutt was also released along with a few other songs. these should be added to the discography section Wobofwar (talk) 16:21, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 * There used to be a larger discography section, and I added references to it, but after feedback from another editor (and upon further review of acceptable/reliable references), I removed it bc said acceptable/reliable sources don't really cover a lot of his released music. Soulbust (talk) 00:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2018
Can you change his subscriber count from 78.5 million to 79 million Glad Vlad.28 (talk) 11:44, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done - Vistadan 13:52, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Proposal: Change 'PewDiePie' to 'Kjellberg' when referring to subject in article
While I agree that the article is appropriately named PewDiePie as that is how Kjellberg is most popularly known and what he is most famous for, would it not be more appropriate and have a more encyclopedic tone to refer to the subject as Kjellberg in the remainder of the article? PewDiePie is only his online YouTube pseudonym, and it seems odd when sections providing information on Kjellberg that aren't directly concerning his YouTube 'brand' (for lack of a better word) that he is referred to using his online name (such as his Early life and education, criticisms of him directly, reports on his income, relationships etc.). Perhaps some sections, namely those directly concerning his YouTube channel, make sense to use PewDiePie when referring to the subject, but I feel the use of Kjellberg everywhere else is something that should be considered. --Formulaonewiki (talk) 23:19, 30 December 2018 (UTC)


 * I support this change. Whichever we use, we should use it throughout the whole article, otherwise it will be needlessly confusing.
 * MOS:SURNAME suggests this when a legal name is also used professionally. IMDB credits him as Kjellberg, with PewDiePie being treated as a character he plays (huh, interesting). There are too many fluff sources in the article, but it appears that many of the more substantial sources use PewDiePie as an alias while referring to him as Kjellberg (or "Mr. Kjellberg") for the majority of coverage. Grayfell (talk) 00:56, 31 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Support per the professionally used legal name argument above. We shouldn't be looking at how the sources describe him to judge this, and maybe need an RfC for a local consensus if this gains significant opposition. Compare for example the Scare PewDiePie website which credits him as "Felix Kjellberg (PewDiePie)" with Madonna's appearance on David Letterman. Since PewDiePie has professionally used his real name and his pseudonym interchangably, this article should use his real name per MOS:SURNAME. w umbolo   ^^^  18:51, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Support as per above, per other similar channels (VanossGaming, Pokimane), and finally per WP:SURNAME. – Davey 2010 Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 21:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

New controversy
Add info about the new anti-semitic controversy pewds has gotten into, here are some sources. 344917661X (talk) 23:54, 12 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Personally I don't think it's worth adding for obvious reasons (the obvious reason being it was completely unintentional and he clearly had no idea the user uploader previously posted "dodgy" content). – Davey 2010 Talk 13:30, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, info about the controversy has been added now, but I agree with the fact that PewDiePie promoted the channel unintentionally and that he had no idea that the uploader previously posted "dodgy" content, so i'm not trying to hate on PewDiePie at all. 344917661X (talk) 00:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)


 * It is a personal opinion, but not necessarily a fact, that he promoted it unintentionally. Calling this "dodgy" seems far too euphemistic, also. Per the Verge source, PewDiePie liked and commented on a video containing footage of an event where a neo-Nazi murdered a woman, which also included a debunked conspiracy theory about how she died. Wikipedia goes by reliable sources, not WP:OR, so this matters only to the extent it is supported by reliable sources. Multiple sources (add, , and , to the list)  have pointed out that PewDiePie either completely failed to pay attention to what he was telling his audience, or worse, he was paying attention and did it anyway. Grayfell (talk) 09:51, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't matter "only to the extent it is supported by reliable sources", not at all. WP:NPOV has many factors, one of which is persistence of coverage in RS (also known as WP:recentism). Since almost all of these sources are from a single day, and the coverage has completely died down, this does not belong in full. I would make it one sentence long, or two at most if WP:PUBLICFIGURE requires it. Also, just because all news organizations and agencies (including Jewish ones) always make the mistake of name-dropping and therefore promoting anti-Semites, doesn't mean we have to follow suit (WP:NOTFREESPEECH). I find it an odd coincidence too, that he promoted the channel about the same time that the murderer you mentioned was convicted, but it is just that – a coincidence – as drawing any connections is WP:FRINGE per the lack of bidirectional coverage. w umbolo   ^^^  19:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * No, this is incorrect. Wikipedia is based on reliable sources. You can make the case that this is recentism and is therefor undue weight, but to be taken seriously, this case would also be based on reliable sources. That the video was linked in a single day is completely and stunningly irrelevant. Lots of things happen in a single day which turn out to be encyclopedically significant, and the way we decide that is through sources. Several of the sources linked in this discussion are from the following week, also. There's are sources like this one which specifically contextualize this as part of a long-running and significant pattern, not just an isolated event. If this were the only time something like this had happened, sources wouldn't be taking about it in this way.
 * Name-dropping? What are you talking about? It is obviously intentional, and it is not up to you to decide this was actually a mistake.
 * Whether lazy or malicious, his actions have consequences, and his non-apology strongly suggests he doesn't even understand why this was a problem in the first place. Not because I have a problem with Nazi references being offensive in themselves, but because I said publicly a year and a half ago that I was going to distance myself from Nazi jokes and that kind of stuff because I want nothing to do with it.
 * If Kjellberg cannot be bothered to apologize like an adult, I'm sure he'll still have have his legions of fans, but that doesn't mean sources are obligated to ignore this just because his fans do. That's not how sources work, and therefore it's not how Wikipedia works, either. Grayfell (talk) 21:01, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that you need to cite where the policy says that for it to be taken seriously. Furthermore, WP:DEPTH for example says: "Media sources sometimes report on events because of their similarity (or contrast, or comparison) to another widely reported incident. Editors should not rely on such sources to afford notability to the new event, since the main purpose of such articles is to highlight either the old event or such types of events generally." While it is about notability, the same logic applies here. w umbolo   ^^^  10:34, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * If the pattern is notable, and it clearly is, we should report on the pattern per sources. Trying to downplay noteworthy, documented parts of this pattern which have been discussed by multiple sources spanning weeks, would be non-neutral. Grayfell (talk) 00:10, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Grayfell, you're really pushing the boundaries of BLP here. Go air your grievances somewhere other than the subject's article talk page. Swarm  {talk}  00:32, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I can't believe such a long argument has stemmed out of me simply asking for info about PDP's new controversy to be added to his Wikipedia article, which it already has been, almost a month ago. 344917661X (talk) 19:38, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2019
Please change the suscriber count to 79.7 million. 5.36.34.197 (talk) 13:33, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done DannyS712 (talk) 21:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2019
some of the info in this could use some tweaking 92.5.144.80 (talk) 20:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. DannyS712 (talk) 21:03, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

PewDiePie changed his fanbase's name
PewDiePie has been calling his fans 9 year olds in his more recent videos. This article may be worth updating. Outofmario (talk) 13:01, 21 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Only if reliable sources mention it. Grayfell (talk) 00:28, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

He has changed his fanbase name too often to be considered for permanent change, and has saturated "the named fanbase" stereotype to the point where we should use the monacure "9 Years olds". (also Grayfell, Pew News has been calling his fans other names like Memers [if you wanted a reliable source] BMO4744 (talk) 21:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2019
occupation Meme star Lilbud6942069 (talk) 15:25, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 17:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

sub to pewdiepie
Sub — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freezing cold218 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

sub to pewdiepie
Sub — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freezing cold218 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Phonetic transcription
The IPA transcription of PewDiePie represents a typical English reflex pronunciation of the name, which is notably different from how Felix himself pronounces it. The difference is that in the first syllable, rather than a long vowel [uː], Felix has a high rounding diphthong [ɪʊ]. The difference can be heard very clearly when he prolongs the syllable as he used to do in intros of his videos in the past. I propose editing the transcription to reflect Felix's pronunciation - [ˈpɪʊdipaɪ] - (as he is the 'author' of the nickname and thus it could be argued that he determines the 'canon' pronunciation) or include both (as is done with pronunciation with his real family name). Arivius (talk) 12:53, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Info Box photo change
I believe we should change the photo to something more modern. Find a 1080p screenshot or something from the last year. Unfortunately not many media outlets took his photo this year. A more modern screenshot would still be better. BMO4744 (talk) 01:54, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2019
type = "He's mainly the worlds most famous You Tuber with the highest subscribers in history" 2607:FEA8:A4C0:1DF:E553:C584:8CB5:7165 (talk) 13:27, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Memes
"can you do this" is referring to pewdiepies chair in which he lays down in and yells "BUT CAN IT DO THIS" to make fun of other people chairs not being able to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 364hanq 43awn6y (talk • contribs) 02:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2019
103.96.246.39 (talk) 15:53, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Wall Street Journal Hack
I don't see anything about the Wall Street Journal hack that was supposedly perpetrated by fans of PewDiePie. It deserves its own place on PewDiePie's page and not just within the PewDiePie vs T-Series page.

108.252.124.176 (talk) 15:06, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I think if possible we should merge the pages and create a section dedicated to the fight on the main page, but right now that page is kinda a mess and is still an active event. Wait till March edit: wait till April edit2: wait till may edit3: wait till June!BMO4744 (talk) 13:26, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

T-series didn't actually surpass PewDiePie
The thing that YouTube did was a glitch or they removed the 20K to seek if they are real. TWTSeeYaLater! (talk) 09:46, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 February 2019
This is not an edit request but something you should put in, you should say that he is being contested by T-Series an Indian YouTube channel that makes that makes music videos to popular songs and they make there own music. One more thing... SUB 2 PEWDS! 2607:FEA8:E320:5B0:909B:4B26:E206:7AB8 (talk) 20:45, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Already mentioned at Talk:PewDiePie.  NFL  is  Awesome   (ZappaOMatic) 20:54, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Infobox
Infoboxes in biographies are for summarizing encyclopedic information about the person essential to their notability, and little else. His height fit this criteria. --Ronz (talk) 16:52, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed, Weight and height for models are fine however he's not a model so it's pointless including this. – Davey 2010 Talk 16:57, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

@ I think this is a reference to a meme on his channel that he claims he's 1.8m. (His fans disbelieve this) — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned comment added by Stormcloak EthnoNationalist (talk • contribs) 22:10, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds like that would be best addressed in a fan site, not an encyclopedia article. --Ronz (talk) 17:44, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2019
以下の内容をページに追加してください. 私はここで編集要求をするように頼まれました. The Meme Awards is an annual awards Ceremony posted to Youtube by popular YouTube content creator PewDiePie. This ceremony entails giving out awards to several popular Internet memes of various categories, including saddest meme, worst meme, and best meme. These awards first premeried on December 31, 2018.

2018
In the debut for the Meme Awards, there were 9 categories. The first category was best food meme which was won by somebody toucha ma spaghet. The next category, saddest meme, was won by this is so sad. Following this category was science breakthrough meme, narrowly won by Surgery on a grape. Best obama meme was won by Yobama. Sexiest meme was taken home by bowsette. Best meme song was won by PewDiePie's own bitch lasagna. The category worst meme was won by popular online game Fortnite. Best meme show was won in a close race by meme review, marking PewDiePie's second award of the night. The final and most coveted category, best meme, was awarded to But Can You Do This? giving PewDiePie a final tally of three won awards. Thank you! 105.158.102.128 (talk) 22:02, 18 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Grayfell (talk) 00:14, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Edit Request
please change "PewDiePie" Kjellberg }} born 24 October 1989), known online as PewDiePie, is a Swedish YouTuber, comedian and video game player–commentator, best known for his YouTube video content, which has mainly consisted of Let's Play commentaries, vlogs, and comedic formatted shows.

to

"PewDiePie" Kjellberg |medium=Radio|url=https://sverigesradio.se/sida/avsnitt/412763?programid=2071 |access-date=2 May 2018 |format=MP3 |publisher=Sveriges Radio }} }} born 24 October 1989), known online as PewDiePie, is a Swedish YouTuber, comedian and gamer–commentator, best known for his YouTube video content, which has mainly consisted of Let's Play commentaries, vlogs, and comedic formatted shows.

because video game player is outdated and today gamer is used on it's place.

}} MarkTSW (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Saucy[talk – contribs] 23:48, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2019
add that PewDiePie is also famous for Meme Review, Pew News and the PewDiePie vs TSeries War Kowalski analyzed (talk) 07:02, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: these are already there Saucy[talk – contribs] 07:33, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2019
Felix is 5 feet 9 inches and he is lying about his height in the wiki which he edited himself. You can find that in his youtube channel videos around march 29th. Please change the height back to his real height. If you didn't subscribe to Pewdiepie, please do subscribe. Help him get over his insecurities. Krishnamsmail (talk) 14:50, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 14:54, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

As shown 1:50 minutes into RoomieOfficial's "Subscribe to Pewdiepie (bc of his height)" video, posted on the 11th of February 2019 to YouTube; PewDiePie is 177cm tall, making him 5 feet 9 inches. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jR9LbHMkcY — Preceding unsigned comment added by I am mooge (talk • contribs) 03:12, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Christchurch shooting
It's literally the only reason I've heard of this guy and there's no mention in the article? Things like this cheapen the value of wikipedia because I can't imagine any reason for this not to be more thoroughly discussed other than the page being run by a bunch of fanboys 70.63.129.180 (talk) 02:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Agreed. Cited sources stating concerns regarding PewDiePie's ties to right wing propaganda spreading have been typically denied a place on the article page. I am in no way surprised that a racist mass shooter espoused 'subscribe to PewDiePie' before going on a rampage. 2600:1700:7A51:10B0:558D:104B:60B6:7953 (talk) 20:02, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


 * There are 2 different locations that the shooting is mentioned within this article. Additionally, the media reception analysis section goes in-depth about how some media outlets have described his content, which includes alt-right. Soulbust (talk) 02:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)


 * You delusional weirdo. Pewdiepie isn't alt-right, he doesn't support what the shooter did. You are in fact doing exactly what the shooter wants you to do. Stir division, go on some witch hunt against anyone right of center to try and push us further towards civil war. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:4480:A700:24DE:83F6:5246:38C5 (talk) 06:02, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

So if some racist murderer yells the name of the most subscribed youtuber of all time the youtuber is at fault? Thegues (talk) 11:23, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Media section sounds very promotional in tone
will require massive editing and redactions in the coming months — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aliteraryscholar (talk • contribs) 16:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2019
Change Pewdiepies height from 181cm to 190cm. he said that he is 190cm in his latest video. }} 9yearoldman (talk) 19:37, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2019
change pewdiepies height on this page back to 180cm because he changed it from 181 cm in his video for laughs Ohxerox (talk) 22:02, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Needs a reliable source, and doesn't seem very relevant to mention. Is not mentioned in the article. – Þjarkur (talk) 22:41, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2019
Felix's real height is actually 5"10 and not 5"11, which makes it really inaccurate. If you look at his videos, you can tell he's lying with some proof behind his real height.

Thanks! PewDiePie19 (talk) 22:53, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Needs a WP:reliable source, and doesn't seem very relevant to mention. Is not currently mentioned in the article. – Þjarkur (talk) 23:16, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2019
PewDiePie Occupations are Gamer, Youtuber, Author, Commentator, Voice Acting and Voice acting Only two of them are on there which are. Youtuber and actor Itooknol (talk) 14:37, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Saucy[talk – contribs] 20:44, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2019
please put sub to pewdiepie on the page please

OhHiMarkIAmNotYou (talk) 00:31, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Wikipedia is not an advertising service for your favourite YouTuber. CoolSkittle  (talk) 00:35, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Bitch Lasagna Redirect
When I search on Wikipedia for T-Series diss track, or Bitch Lasagna. A redirect happens. I am planning with help from other editors to make this into a page, what is the process of turning a redirect into an article? BMO4744 (talk) 23:32, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
 * - Just edit the redirect. CoolSkittle  (talk) 00:29, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Although this was at AfD last November. CoolSkittle  (talk) 00:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

I believe I have compiled enough sources to create an article for the song. 80% articles, 20% 1st person sources BMO4744 (talk) 01:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2019
pewdiepie is back to number 1 after t-series being ahead of him for 24hours — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.30.215.242 (talk) 19:50, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2019
The pewdiepie height is actually 182cm T-Bad Is Irrelevant (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Þjarkur (talk) 22:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

Too many quotations
The article is filled with statements and comments by Kjellberg about himself and his work. Its not appropriate. What he says is trivia. Besides that we are supposed to be writing in Wikipedia voice. See WP:QUOTEFARM. - Shiftchange (talk) 21:37, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2019
Felix Arvid Ulf Kjellberg[4] (/ˈʃɛlbɜːrɡ/ SHEL-burg;[5] Swedish: [feːlɪks arvɪd ɵlf ²ɕɛlbærj] (About this soundlisten);[c] born 24 October 1989),[7] better known online as PewDiePie (/ˈpjuːdipaɪ/ PEW-dee-py), is a Swedish YouTuber, comedian and gamer–commentator, best known for his YouTube video content, which mainly consists of comedic shows such as Meme Review, Pew News, LWIAY (Last Week I Asked You) and You laugh You lose. Arifshahid11 (talk) 15:49, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: These are listed later in the article. The lead should be kept as a short summary and not go into too much detail. Saucy[talk – contribs] 19:28, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

controversy needs its own section outside of the history section
The amount of controversy surrounding this guy is enough to be its own section outside the history section. 2600:1700:7A51:10B0:A911:E2D7:9F34:F5B9 (talk) 17:58, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Grouping information into a "Controversies" section creates a number of problems, and there's strong consensus against organizing articles in such a manner. --Ronz (talk) 18:26, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * [citation needed] 72.181.99.6 (talk) 17:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Given his name's use in both the defacement of a WWII memorial and the manifesto of the perpetrators of the Christchurch mosque attack (both in early 2019), how can we appropriately mention his name and channel in relation to ultra-right-wing activism and terrorism? 174.84.112.110 (talk) 10:41, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Find independent, reliable sources that demonstrate it is clearly worth noting in an encyclopedia article about him. --Ronz (talk) 17:43, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Here's a decent one:. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:52, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think that demonstrates any encyclopedic value, and falls into NOTNEWS. --Ronz (talk) 21:05, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Ronz, plenty of articles about living persons have controversy sections. How would this cause any issues? Please be specific. 2600:1700:7A51:10B0:558D:104B:60B6:7953 (talk) 20:00, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
 * That's an other stuff exists argument.
 * If you're not familiar with Wikipedia's content policies, it's best to avoid WP:BLP articles, where strict adherence to content policies is required. --Ronz (talk) 21:40, 19 March 2019 (UTC)


 * Controversy sections should be avoided if possible. If a controversy is WP:DUE, it should be in the right place in the article, per topic or chronology or whatever, but separate controversy sections tend to act as shit-magnets. More at WP:CRITS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Pewdewpie's Bitch Lasagna and Congratulations have been banned by a court in world's largest democracy for their extremely racist and derogatory content. This warrants enough info for a controversy section, in addition to above. https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/pewdiepie-asked-to-delete-t-series-diss-tracks-fans-complain-about-rule-of-law-2099327.html Anshabhi (talk) 13:45, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Other stuff exists argument doesn't hold here at all. How reliable do you want the source to be? We have the video of shooter and the last words uttered by him apart from massive coverage by media. Anshabhi (talk) 13:48, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

To maintain WP:DUE, we should add his reaction to all of this stuff, as is done in every other personal page with a controversy section Anshabhi (talk) 13:49, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

T-series
T-series has currently got more subscribers than Pew die pie this makes me and others very annoyed. But good job to T-series you deserve it. Go team and dont forget to sub to PEWDIEPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoebe.eliza (talk • contribs) 03:41, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2019
Change subscriber count to 94,408,263 as of 18/04/19 109.77.207.221 (talk) 16:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RhinosF1(chat) (status)(contribs) 13:36, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2019
You should put in information that his mortal enemy is T-Series. SharkAgar (talk) 08:43, 20 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done. Grayfell (talk) 08:48, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

add in that he has terrible camera quality in sweden but amazing quality in japan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.15.43.52 (talk) 23:26, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Cringe Tuesday
Pewdiepie has a new show call Cringe Tuesday's where he tries to cringe at various videos and clips — Preceding unsigned comment added by Felix152 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2019
Pewdiepie's real height is 177.5cm and not 181cm Felix152 (talk) 18:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Davey 2010 Talk 18:51, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2019
Change vlogs in “One of the examples Kjellberg gives of this includes one of his vlogs, in which he expresses frustration at people creating swastikas in his Tuber Simulator video game.” to videos. QuiksilverStorm (talk) 17:57, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done DannyS712 (talk) 02:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

PewDiePie vs. Kjellberg
Hi,

In the article about PewDiePie he is generally listed as Kjellberg despite the fact that PewDiePie is established as his more common title (in fact, that's the title of the article.) I understand that people should generally be referred to by their last names and I support this. However, in this case it seems like it would be clearer and less awkward if he was referred to as PewDiePie. So I was wondering if there is an established Wikipedia policy regarding this, and if not I think it would make sense to modify.

67.180.58.131 (talk) 01:10, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2019
I can add important stuff like how many subs pewds had when the war started and many other things. I also have good grammar. 2600:8806:4200:31:CD9B:F300:620F:5DEE (talk) 22:18, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

personas
With Felix's vast amount of personas, I think it's time to introduce a chapter on his page for just this. I was gonna edit it myself for others to improve but since the page is semi-protected and since I'm not a confirmed editor on this account I can't do that myself. This would obviously include all his news anchors, the different Brad names, such as Brad 1-4 and many more including beastmaster64. This would also serve as a good place to introduce e.g. Aloona Larionova as someone close to the fanbase. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Witext (talk • contribs) 19:29, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
 * +1 ... This is true; I know he has a lot of pseudonyms just for Pew News alone, and there are even more besides. It's an integral part of his online shtick that he has multiple personas, some named after real people, some not. -- 2601:645:C200:8D20:C1C:8295:683F:ED7F (talk) 03:09, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Gameography / Pinstripe / References - Author update
I have contacted GamePressure.com about its author "Luckie" and it turns out the author's real name is Łukasz Szliselman if anyone would like to update the reference tag (please) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:C200:8D20:109:5233:628:2346 (talk) 22:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2019
I want to add more info 67.44.160.119 (talk) 05:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —RainFall</b> 05:54, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add Pinstripe and Zerø Deaths to Gameography section
PewDiePie voices a role in the game Pinstripe, and he is the main character in the platformer game Zerø Deaths.

I would add the games myself, but the article is protected. I have included the full wiki-code for the updated Gameography table.

Here is what I added or changed:


 * 1) Added table columns for Type and Notes
 * 2) Added the games Pinstripe and Zerø Deaths, including links to Wikipedia pages where applicable, notes on the games, and references (three and two, respectively)
 * 3) Updated Animal Super Squad platforms to include iOS, macOS, and Xbox One
 * 4) Changed instances of OS X in the Platforms lists to macOS, since the OS X page redirects there anyway.
 * 5) Also created this request to undelete the previously-deleted Animal Super Squad draft (I don't know why it was deleted).
 * 6) Changed Years column title to Year.

Note: The references for "Legend of the Brofist" and "Tuber Simulator" appear to be aliased in the original article, so I suppose they'll look broken until pasted back into the original article.

Here is the wiki-code for the above table:

<pre style="display: inline-block">

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:645:c200:8d20:c1c:8295:683f:ed7f (talk) 03:01, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Updates to Gameography section
I have included full wiki-code for the full and updated Gameography table, with updates enumerated as follows:


 * 1) Added table columns for Type and Notes
 * 2) Updated references for Pinstripe (the article author name Luckie was colloquial, and I updated with the author's actual name, Łukasz Szliselman, from GamePressure.com)
 * 3) Added the game Zerø Deaths, including platforms, notes and references.
 * 4) Updated Animal Super Squad platforms to include iOS, macOS, and Xbox One
 * 5) Changed instances of OS X in the Platforms lists to macOS, since OS X page redirects there anyway.
 * 6) Changed Years column title to Year.

Also: I also created this request to undelete the previously-deleted Animal Super Squad draft (I don't know why it was deleted by User: Risker, other than that it was created by a banned user -- I can say that if a game is released on all major gaming platforms that it definitely meets the standards of notability and should have a Wikipedia article... but that is just my opinion).

Note: References for Legend of the Brofist and Tuber Simulator are aliased, so they'll look broken until pasted back into the original article.

Here is the wiki-code for the above table (thanks for collapsing it, <b style="font-variant: all-small-caps;"><b style='background: black; color:white; padding: 1.5px'>Rain</b><b style='background: gray; color:white; padding: 1.5px'>Fall</b></b>!):

<pre style="display: inline-block">

Thanks! – 2601:645:C200:8D20:F190:4C78:1057:A184 (talk) 18:32, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅ Alduin2000 (talk) 19:11, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2019
I want to change his height temporarily to 7'2" because it's a meme that he liked in his latest video and a lot of people will get it and hopefully he'll see it :D Cookiemon9 (talk) 02:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Well I'm not doing it, I don't want to get banned Apersonthatdoesthings (talk) 07:02, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This is an encylopedia not a social media site or meme factory. <b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328  Let's discuss it  07:10, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 July 2019
27.96.202.11 (talk) 10:23, 29 July 2019 (UTC) Pewdipie is 7.2"
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. &#8209;&#8209; El Hef  ( Meep? ) 13:36, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Time for a new section
I think it's time for a placeholder section in Pewdiepie's history to be added and include everything after the T-Series war up until now Apersonthatdoesthings (talk) 18:22, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

I agree, he has become a Minecraft youtuber. Ninux2000 (talk) 12:23, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2019
67.71.128.228 (talk) 22:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC) He is the new leader of Sweden Democrats political party as of 30 july 2019
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Melmann 13:27, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2019
he is 69 inches tall 86.21.103.74 (talk) 18:34, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. <b style="font-family:verdana;color:#2b601f">aboideau</b><sup style="color:#474647">talk 19:09, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

T-Series isn't a youtuber
Pewdiepie isn't the second youtuber to hit 100 million subscribers, he is the second youtube channel to reach 100 000 000 Apersonthatdoesthings (talk) 02:42, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

100 mil
Tseries isn't considered a YouTuber, but more of a YouTube channel. The sentence should read "On August 25th, 2019, Kjellberg became the second YouTube channel and first individual YouTuber to surpass 100 million subscribers. Kdunski (talk) 03:01, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2019
Felix is now married so I think it should say spouse instead of partner. YVisal (talk) 17:34, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Saucy[talk – contribs] 05:18, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Gameography section
Hello, To keep the serious and thorough aspect of the article i propose to change the name of the section "Gameography" to "Ludography". 195.132.154.117 (talk) 17:00, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2019
Add 100,000,000 play button MatthewGamer1 (talk) 20:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Even though this is a weirdly formatted request, this is needed. It is covered by third-party sources, and has been awarded to T-Series as well. Abequinn14 (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done <b style="color:black">Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 01:08, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2019
Under 'Play Buttons' add the 'Red Diamond Play Button' for 100,000,000 subscribers using this file: Psy77 (talk) 23:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Isn't it a black play button? BananaBaron (talk) 23:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done <b style="color:black">Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 01:09, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

"Пьюдипай" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Пьюдипай. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. signed,Rosguill talk 15:01, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Correlations
Around the era when Felix worked at a hot dog stand he applied for a position at Mojang but did not get hired. This is rather significant/ironic in his career because in mid-late 2019 Felix began a Minecraft(owned by Mojang) series that blew up due to its "Big brain" story line and the personalization of the developing characters that left the viewers ecstatic and heart-broken with a emotional roller-coaster of a spectacle that originaly road on the back of his dog's life-span. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonhy101 (talk • contribs) 23:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Revert undo request
I would like to undo this revert. I have tried to contact WackyWikiWoo on the user's talk page. 99% of topics on Wikipeida aren't covered well- I'm trying to get the ball rolling. If I get no response here, I presently plan to make the revert edit myself at some point in the near future. Thanks for any comments or assistance. Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:47, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The edits you've done seem good to me, think was only concerned about the sources — <b style="font-family:Ariel; color:red">IVORK</b> <b style="font-family:Ariel; color:Green; font-size:x-small">Talk</b> 02:48, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2019
Pewdiepie now has 23.8 trillion views 79.76.254.119 (talk) 17:45, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Updated, thanks! <b style="font-family:verdana;color:#2b601f">aboideau</b><sup style="color:#474647">talk 17:53, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, My edit was a mistake! CoolBoyLOL12345 (talk) 21:17, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2019
Don guttenberg (talk) 02:33, 5 December 2019 (UTC) pewdipie isn't the most subscribed youtuber acctually, i request to change that!
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. <b style="color:black">Nici</b><b style="color:purple">Vampire</b><b style="color:black">Heart</b> 05:17, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually PewDiePie is the most subscribed youtuber, if you think T-Series is a youtuber it is not.

-73.210.114.83 (talk) 00:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Concerned about good article status
Hi regular editors of this article!

Among the good article criteria, I think this article does a great job in general with broad-yet-focused in coverage (3) and verifiability (2), but I'm concerned about its GA status on grounds of well-written (1) and possibly media copyright statuses.

In particular, in my casual walk through the stub and one of the article's sections today, I found:
 * Clarity of stub: The stub never clearly stated Kjellberg was the most-subscribed YouTube channel for more than 5 years, a succinct way to state his primary reason for significance
 * Editorializing: /* Subscriber competition with T-Series (2018–2019) */ "Kjellberg also made allegations against T-Series using subscribing bots, but these allegations were later found to be baseless and manipulative, as YouTube has a tough policy against fake engagement."
 * Awkward prose: /* Subscriber competition with T-Series (2018–2019) */ "In response, Kjellberg tweeted of his disgust to have his name associated with the attack"
 * Inconsistent verb tense: (should take historical viewpoint)
 * /* ‎Subscriber competition with T-Series (2018–2019) */ "Various journalists covering the shooting reported that PewDiePie is not complicit with the shootings" (emphasis mine; the events happened 8 months ago)
 * /* Subscriber competition with T-Series (2018–2019) */ "Parts of the song's lyrics are sarcasm towards T-Series."
 * Overlinking: /* Subscriber competition with T-Series (2018–2019) */ "He also mentions the CEO's tax evasion scandal and #MeToo allegations."
 * Incorrect word (reward vs award): /* Subscriber competition with T-Series (2018–2019) */ "YouTube tweeted a congratulatory post to note the occurrence, and rewarded him with a Red Diamond Play Button."

This article is, on the whole, very comprehensive and well-researched; I would really like for it to be a good article (or even a featured article given its importance to internet culture, although it being a biography of living persons this may be challenging) given its importance to Internet Culture. But a quick read through one of the sections left me with concerns about its GA status. I've fixed the issues I identified above, but I'm curious to hear other editors' thoughts on the article as a whole. —Shrinkydinks (talk) 21:05, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Tagging major contributors for discussion:, (looks inactive on this page) , ,  (based on authorship analysis on XTools; feel free to include other editors!). Hi there, major contributors! Would love your thoughts on this. —Shrinkydinks (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised I'm listed. What probably caused that was I IABot rescued most of the article's sources. I've only edited it ~3 times back in 2017 and don't have much on this but reviews of status never hurt anything. -- The SandDoctor Talk 23:05, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ah ok, no problem! Just pinged every non-bot over >2% contribution using the tool. Thank you for chiming in anyways! —Shrinkydinks (talk) 23:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Update 10 December 9:45pm GMT — I took at look at "Early life and education" this evening, and it was riddled with bad prose, even spelling errors. I'll do a pass of a few more sections to see if WP:GA status is rescuable. If not, I'll open a GA review... sad day. —Shrinkydinks (talk) 21:50, 10 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry for my somewhat late reply- I do see the point you’re making, but the article’s length makes identifying and fixing every error in prose in the article quite a difficult task compared to shorter articles. That being said, your point still stands. I don’t have much experience with GA nominations/criteria, so I’ll leave it to those who know more, but it would be great if improvements could be made so that the article can have its status maintained, given the significance of the subject. WackyWikiWoo (talk) 14:26, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Update: I’ve read through the sections up to “public image and influence” and have improved some of the prose (I was honestly not aware of most of the mistakes that were there, but I guess that’s one of the side-effects of having it editable by anyone). I’ll work on the rest at a later time, but take a look and see if it’s any better. WackyWikiWoo (talk) 02:45, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 December 2019
Remove "and comedian" from "Youtuber and comedian" from first paragraph Siwjndigp (talk) 08:27, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 21:19, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Added religious beliefs to "Personal Life"
If someone thinks this should go somewhere I else that is fine but I couldn't think of any better place other than personal life to put something like that. I wanted to add this info for those who may want to know. He has said this before in his videos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Br467322 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Ambiguous statement
In the career section in 2017, it says a video "appears" to show him saying a racial slur, when in reality it does show him using a racial slur. The word "appears" is completely unnecessary and only creates confusion. Crockett1 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:02, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 March 2020
I need to change something HazelRose1 (talk) 16:10, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * You can suggest edits here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y" citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:26, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2020
pls add content about a new controversy about pewdiepie over coronavirus joke. 49.149.99.91 (talk) Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DarthFlappy (talk) 00:22, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

just add it on the controversy section in 2020, Mr. User:DarthFlappy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.149.99.91 (talk) 01:57, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 * NO. Please consider adding this to Wikia. Drmies (talk) 01:59, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2020
The most wathed videos ringt now is meme review! 81.227.236.41 (talk) 10:20, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. &mdash; KuyaBriBri Talk 13:26, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

PewDiePie's Twitch Thot Comment
Why does it say he said it about Alinity where if you watch the video at least once, you can clearly see he was saying it while watching a video of STPeach? It's not like it's hard to tell, STPeach is blonde and Alinity is not. Alinity reacted to his video on her stream and was so angered by his comment that she asked if she could copyright it. This is why people say Wikipedia can't be trusted because you don't fact check something like this which is not even difficult to do. Dankthony Daniels (talk) 01:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2020
Change subscribers from 13M to 14M. He has around 14,009,000 subscribers right now. Akarsh03 (talk) 13:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done I assume you meant 103M to 104M. That is done along with views. &#123;&#123;replyto&#125;&#125; Can I Log In's (talk) page 21:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Adding a controversy section
I think we should have a discussion here on it. Personally, I disagree with having one, especially as a section. Maybe as a subsection or incorporated within the public image section (maybe)? But I think his controversies happen largely due to his actual YouTube content/videos. His videos are very meta as they refer to it, as well. Like I would mention Pew News in his history section. It's different from say Kanye West saying or doing something controversial in the media, totally outside of a song of his.

Separating the sections like this make it read like a huge chunk of his channel's history is missing in that section. Especially as someone who's been writing on this article for 8 or years, it makes it have a very choppy understanding of the chronology of his history on YouTube.

For the purposes of Wikipedia, it becomes largely redundant and opens the door to a lot of overlapping information to try and separate a YouTuber from their eponymous YouTube channel. I did it with Philip DeFranco and The Philip DeFranco Show, but DeFranco has branched out and tried to launch several projects. Within an article, it's a similar concept I believe. For PewDiePie, I think the controversies are just too connected with his channel's history to have both of these be true: 1. really create a smooth chronological reading of his channel's history and 2. not have a controversy section later on in the article that would read as redundant.

There is also the concern brought up by Criticism, which I think is handy advice.

I'm obviously open and okay with having a discussion/dialogue about this.

Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 18:45, 16 April 2020 (UTC)


 * After considering a lot of different routes, I've decided to be bold and make the PewDiePie (channel) article. I've both incorporated a lot of information from this article and shifted all the text information from the PewDiePie videography list (to make that list parallel filmography and discography lists here on Wikipedia) into the PewDiePie (channel) article. I think, over time, we can tighten the information on this one so that it focuses on Felix, and so the PewDiePie (channel) article isn't as redundant as it can seem right now. Obviously the Internet career section will be the toughest challenge for this. Like I said in my last post here, I think PewDiePie [er at least his controversies] are too tied to his videos, so I still don't think a straight up Controversy section would be an idea conducive to getting a smooth/non-choppy reading of this article. That being said, however, I think we can get some of the lesser important statistical data off this page and move it over to PewDiePie (channel) (if I didn't already). Obviously the important milestones/info should stay (first 1 million subs/early 2010-2013 growth in general; becoming the most-subbed and most-viewed;the whole PewDiePie vs T-Series stuff; and big milestones, like 10 billion views and 100 million subs.) Soulbust (talk) 14:21, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi, I appreciate the boldness, I really don’t think a separate article for the channel is necessary. Most of the information on there is already on the PewDiePie article, and I think the info on statistical history could easily be included in the videography article. No other YouTubers (from my knowledge) have a separate article for their channel, and I don’t see the benefit of having one for PewDiePie. The main PewDiePie article, from what I understand it, isn’t just about him as a person, but also his channel and viewership. I don’t think we need to have these topics in separate articles. WackyWikiWoo (talk) 14:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I think other YouTubers probably can have a separate article for their channels/shows (as aforementioned with DeFranco). At this point, at least. I remember when I first started editing YouTube articles, it was hard to get them made in the first place. Now it's a bit easier. I see your concern however.


 * As for the statistical data, I wouldn't want to include it on the videography page. I initially put it there because there really wasn't anywhere else to put it. It kind of drags this article, and it shouldn't really go on the videography article (at least since my goal is to make that article parallel what musicians have for discographies or what actors have for filmographies here on Wikipedia).


 * I think the PewDiePie channel article can be akin to something like a mix of Nickelodeon and Friends. In many ways, YouTube channels are a blend of both a television channel/network and an individual television series, just in an online format. Perhaps we can add more information on to this article about PewDiePie's personal beliefs, opinions on YouTube as a platform, etc. (if they are properly/reliably sourced, of course). And at the same, we can tighten the language on here and move any perhaps more channel-centric information (obviously not all of it) onto the channel article.


 * I get that it's a little redundant right now, but I think with some editing (which I'll be doing more of next month), it'll be less so.


 * Thanks for adding your thoughts, I appreciate it. Best wishes, Soulbust (talk) 14:55, 27 April 2020 (UTC)