Talk:Phaenias of Eresus

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The result of the move request was: page moved per request. - GTBacchus(talk) 23:15, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Phanias of Eresus → Phaenias of Eresus – Commoner form in general scholarly usage. Wareh (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Any evidence? Naive searching on Google Books an Scholar seems to indicate the opposite.--Kotniski (talk) 11:02, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A standard recent edition is Brill's Die Fragmente der griechischen Historiker continued; it spells "Phainias of Eresos." I think if we're sticking with a Latinized spelling, and if we try to measure the choice of different authors for the first vowel of the name (Phai- vs. Pha-), we'll find that Phai-/Phae- handily beats Pha-. See also this article devoted to him, the Cambridge Ancient History, and more of the technical works on chronologists and Peripatetics (in the Google Books results). In general, I get the following on Google Books. The first numbers in parentheses are for the date range 1965-2004, so you can see that the trend is leaving Phanias behind.
 * 371 (79, JSTOR 9) +"phanias of eresus"
 * 228 (106, JSTOR 13) +"phaenias of eresus"
 * 147 (121, JSTOR 46) +"phainias of eresos"
 * 119 (32, JSTOR 12) +"phanias of eresos"
 * 18 (9) +"phainias of eresus"
 * 16 (10) +"phaenias of eresos"
 * So in the recent period (I omit the last few years because of the explosion of public domain reprints from Google Books), we have Phai-/Phae- "winning" by 246 to 111. In my experience Google Scholar is pretty useless in Classics; I provide JSTOR results but note that they're not for the exact phrase (thus Phainias of Eresos returns non-English-language items). Wareh (talk) 17:32, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
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