Talk:Phaeton body

Usage
The word Pheaton usually refers to a (pre WW2) 4 door convertable automobile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.229.28.23 (talk) 12:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

New Phaeton Concept
The Mercedes-Benz Ocean Drive is a phaeton. View on NetCarShow —Preceding unsigned comment added by XsandaOS (talk • contribs) 09:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Strictly speaking it is that now very rare (new) thing a four-door convertible (wind-up sidewindows) and not a phaeton - but then how many people mind about that, it looks very nice. Anyway who would buy a car without sidewindows? Eddaido (talk) 09:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Use limited to North America?
It is interesting to note that the automotive use of the term "phaeton" was limited to North America, especially since two of the references used in the article, one of which was published in 1914, are British books. It is also that 1914 British reference that states that the term "phaeton" has been so widely and loosely used as to have lost its initial meaning. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 13:14, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Selected chapter headings from Mr Roberts' Octopus book: America The Brave; Tin Lizzie; And the Duesenberg; Gas to Gasoline; Big Fake.
 * Again with Mr Terry's: from his preface: "Some reference has also been made to Birge and Sargent's Practical Problems for Vehicle Makers, published by Ware Brothers Company, Philadelphia." Sincerely, Eddaido (talk) 01:07, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Last true Phaeton?
The article claims that the Wileys Jeepster was the last true phaeton mad by a major manufacturer, but Leyland produced the incredibly similar Moke up to 1993 and Chery is bringing it back into production - both major makers, Leyland being among the largest in the world at the time. I have no reference referring to it as a phaeton but it certainly fits every description I can find. To refer to it would be original research barring finding a source, but leaving the article seems to be an inaccuracy. Meantime I am going to change it to 'major US manufacturer' pending somebody either being able to show the Moke is not a Phaeton body or finding a reference that it is. Mycosys (talk) 05:46, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oddly enough, a search for info on cars like the Mini Moke, Fiat Jolly, and Citroen Mehari, had them being described most often as "buggies". The only published work I found that called a Moke a "phaeton" was a novel. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 09:50, 15 May 2014 (UTC)


 * A classic Phaeton is by definition a touring car. The Mini Moke is obviously everything but a long distance cruiser, and I believe that's why no one ever defined this open body style (popular on offroaders and recreational vehicles, such the ones SamBlob cited) a phaeton body.
 * Moreover for obvious reasons a touring phaeton it's not fully open on the sides, as stated here: []
 * About "the last true phaeton" title, I'd say the Morgan Four Seater unarguably holds it (though it's arguable its being a mass produced car). So in my opinion your edit on the Jeepster page should stay anyway. Cloverleaf II (talk) 10:38, 17 May 2014 (UTC)


 * What's also arguable is whether Morgan would be considered a "major automaker", even when compared to Willys in 1951. Wouldn't Morgan be more of a "specialist manufacturer"? Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Also consider the Excalibur Phaeton, manufactured in Milwaukee 1963-1982. PeterGrfx (talk) 05:09, 26 March 2021 (UTC)