Talk:Phenomena (band)

Clean-up required
This page is in dire need of clean-up. It is written as if to promote the interests of Wilfried F. Rimensberger's in an argument over who was responsible for Phenomena's success. The page is also repetitive and full of fan wibbling. I've done a bit of repair, but more needed. Bondegezou 14:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I improved the references a bit, and tagged with refimprove to improve them. It needs inline references for specific claims, as there are only two links at the bottom, and they don't cover at all the events described on the body of the article, as the RCA deal, etc. Please add sources (like, for example, music magazines covering this band) for verifying that the claims are correct. --Enric Naval (talk) 01:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Much later- I've excised all the stuff about Rimensberger. It was unsourced, and not really borne out by good sources. Rimensberger is credited with executive producing the second Phenomena album, and probably provided resources and contacts for its production and marketing, but there's no indication he was a founding member, a key creative, or anything of the sort (he isn't credited with anything on any other Phenomena albums). The most recent wave of edits to this article re: Rimensberger (2018-19) were done by an editor, Millbanker, with an account name suspiciously similar to that of Rimensberger's latter-day company (Millbank Creative Works), and almost all of the editor's edits are related to Phenomena and Rimensberger (eg adding info on W. F. Rimensberger to the article about the surname "Rimensberger"), very strongly suggesting UPE/COI. It does look like this article has been used as a tool in a sort of struggle over Phenomena's legacy, between the Galley brothers, Rimensberger, and Merv Spence, pushing different perspectives on the group's history in turn. Yspaddadenpenkawr (talk) 19:40, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

The first ref given is to Brian May's website. The only thing there re: Phenomena is a direct reprint of an Escape Music Press release about the Phenomena box set. It doesn't establish the claim it is being used for nor does citing Brian may's website seem legit since it's just a way to avoid citing Escape Music directly.DragonsDream (talk) 11:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)