Talk:Phil Baroni

5'9" is not 180cm
It is 175.26cm

Baroni was not an All American at Central Michigan, He was a two-time All American in Junior college.

List of All Americans at Central Michigan University: http://www.cmuchippewas.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=46361&SPID=4196&DB_OEM_ID=10500&ATCLID=204955073 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.63.208.189 (talk) 22:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Poor Language
Statements such as "immense knockout power" and "brutal knockouts" strike me as something that should be reserved for sensationalist sports journalism, not encyclopedic entries. -Reaper Man 03:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Height/Weight
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=fighter.detail&pid=145 states him at 5'9", 184 lbs, so please stop changing his height/weight. 69.150.84.232 19:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * While I'm not the one who has been changing it, I should mention that Sherdog states otherwise. Debolaz 21:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I think, THINK, the UFC would know a littler more about their fighters than sherdog. 70.253.172.142 06:38, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
 * They don't,, they have jumped around with their heights quite a bit. GSP has been listed on UFC.com as everything from 5'6" to 5'11". I would trust whichever source's stats don't change on a regular basis in regards to height more so that one that DOES change. GTD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.145.224.34 (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Shamrock fight result
I know rear naked chokes are submissions, but in instances when fighters do not tap out and instead go unconscious it is usually ruled a TKO. In the case of Baroni vs. Shamrock it was specifically ruled a TKO victory for Shamrock due to a rear naked choke. Thesaddestday 04:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Heineken and jagerbombs? Really? So? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.38.197.121 (talk) 01:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Steroid Use
The following just doesn't seem to be very good for the article: "Many MMA fans disregard the steroid problems due to California State Athletic Commissions history of controversy when dealing with MMA. This ranges from the suspension of Brian Ebersole and Shannon Ritch indefinately because Ebersole performed a cartwheel guard pass during the match, to suspending Josh Thompson 6 months for wearing a t-shirt with obscenities on it."

First, "Many MMA Fans", comes off as weasle-worded, and sounds like the author has an agenda. More hints of an agenda are apparent with the statement "the suspension of Brian Ebersole and Shannon Ritch indefinately because Ebersole performed a cartwheel guard pass during the match". The suspension did not happen because of a move performed, but rather because the commission believes the two fighters were fighting under an agreement, or a "Worked Fight". http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/category/Brian-Ebersole/ is the first of several reputable pages that explain much better. It sounds to me like the author is a Baroni fan and quite biased. Basically, the author is saying that one lab found a problem, and another smaller lab with less credentials found nothing wrong after being contracted by the person trying to exhonerate themself, and tries to indirectly discredit the first lab because of their ruling on a totally unrelated fight between two totally unrelated fighters. The author labels the Rich and Ebersole suspensions "controversial", along with the suspension of Josh Thompson. Thompson's suspension can not be controversial in any sense of the word, he wore a shirt with obscenities on it, a clear violation of the written rules. Nothing controversial there, just a rule written in plain english, and a fighter that broke it. GTD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.145.224.34 (talk) 19:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

undefeated as amateur boxer?
The Toughman Contest is arguably amateur boxing. Baroni lost a controversial decision TKO (can't recall anymore) to Sam Rodriguez in 2001. Baroni scored three knockdowns against Rodriguez in a single one-minute round which per the rules should have stopped the fight. It did not and Rodriguez was allowed to continue and was able to come back and either knock Baroni out or win on judging points.Halconen (talk) 21:55, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

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