Talk:Philip DeFranco

Website
Should his website in the right box really be Patreon? Youtube is where his content is hosted. Patreon is just a place where people can pay him for his work (and to create more content). He even lists his youtube channel as his website on Twitter. It looks like he has another website, "phillyd.tv", but it hasn't been updated since 2016. --24.207.232.113 (talk) 11:43, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

SourceFed
Is it worth talking about his company's newest endeavor SourceFed considering it's rapidly growing subscriber base? Smufforz The cake is a lie. 21:29, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, for sure. SourceFed has been in the works for months, and it is going to become very big, if the signs so far are any indication. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.58.20.245 (talk) 19:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

I added the SourceFed section a couple months ago... but I was wondering if we should split SourceFed into its own articles. It has reliable refs and it probably has enough to warrant its own article. I'm on the fence about this one so lets conduct a vote. Soulboost (talk) 04:42, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism
reverted death date again; was unsourced --ProfPolySci45 (talk) 05:06, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Image on the right
The only image in this article is extremely small (200x118), Jpeg format (lossy compression) and Philip's face only makes up about 4% of the image. (Seriously.) The source image is more than 4000x2500 pixels, why can't we have a normal image of Philip's face in this article. Like, you know, where you can actually see him? --82.170.113.123 (talk) 02:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone changed the image a while back, so this problem is solved. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 11:38, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Real last name
Today, 8/28/12 the official Philip DeFranco page on facebook (https://www.facebook.com/DeFrancoNation/posts/10151105515124407) stated that his real name is Philip Franchini. I see that this page has been updated. When there's a definitive source on the public internet, it should be referenced to. --Mblumber (talk) 14:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I JoeTemp;concur with Mblumber, The article originally stated that Philip DeFranco's Actual Legal last name was Franchina, However the source used for this edit was inaccurate because the source in question (The Baltimore Sun) itself was incorrect, it was also out of date considering the fact that the article was published in 2007, while the Citation refering to Philip DeFranco himself posting on his Facebook page (confirming that his Legal last name is in fact Franchini) is far more recent, having been published in the month of August 2012. JoeTemp (talk)


 * Why is the Baltimore Sun source is incorrect? Date doesn't matter, there's no evidence the subject has changed their name. WP:SELFPUB facebook posts do not take precedence over the Baltimore Sun article. We don't know which is correct, so both must remain until another reliable source is found.--Alizaa2 (talk) 15:45, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Also read Conflicting sources.--Alizaa2 (talk) 15:48, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

It does not matter to me anymore, This conflict is over since a compromise was reached, As long as the article has Franchini listed before Franchina, I am happy with it. Joe Temp (talk) 18:07, 3 December 2012 (UTC)JoeTemp

Soulboost new sources
New sources to look at from soul from major edits
 * 1) http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-youtube-news-philip-defranco-elections-hub-20120828,0,4409102.story (added back)
 * 2) http://www.tubefilter.com/2012/02/10/phil-defranco-pays-himself-100k-a-year/
 * 3) http://gigaom.com/video/philip-defranco-brings-together-aspiring-youtubers-for-like-totally-awesome/
 * 4) http://buzzedition.com/social-media/tech-news/like-totally-awesome-review-of-the-ipad/
 * 5) http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-youtube-news-philip-defranco-elections-hub-20120828,0,4409102.story
 * 6) http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelhumphrey/2012/07/27/youtube-primetime-philip-defrancos-people-first-plan-has-sourcefed-booming/
 * 7) http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view/20220824social_politics_youtube_launches_hub_dedicated_to_round-the_clock_campaign_coverage/
 * 8) http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08/23/youtube-launches-2012-elections-hub/
 * 9) http://newmediarockstars.com/2012/08/philip-defranco-gets-political-on-the-youtube-election-hub-channel

Shark week ones
 * 1) http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/07/23/discovery-shark-week-schedule-announced-philip-defranco-to-host/142409/
 * 2) http://www.tubefilter.com/2012/07/23/phil-defranco-discovery-channel-shark-week/
 * 3) http://tv.yahoo.com/news/phil-defranco-bites-shark-week-145800735.html
 * 4) http://www.courierpress.com/news/2012/aug/13/shark-week-discovery-channel/
 * 5) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/shark-week-popualr_n_1752913.html

I'm sure we can re-add some of soul's content back from these without making it sound like transcript of a fox news show.--Alizaa2 (talk) 11:30, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Claims of cancellation
Just establishing the facts on how many times he said he was going to stop then changed his mind,
 * 1) On November 3, 2008, DeFranco announced that his work on YouTube would come to an end November 3, 2009.[17] However, on his October 6, 2009, video, DeFranco announced he would continue the show beyond November 3, 2009,
 * 2) he posted a video on April 22, 2010 saying that the show has ended.
 * 3) April 26, 2010 DeFranco said he "needed to cancel the show", due to a contract he signed with a company "way back in the day" that allowed them to advertise his show which he would have to agree to. However DeFranco started a new show called "NSFW" or 'Not Safe For Work'.

So he has said it was cancelled or going to be cancelled a total of 3 times, the third time he renamed it.--Alizaa2 (talk) 10:42, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Personal Life
Someone needs to fix this section. The grammar and organization is horrendous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.232.8 (talk) 05:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * +1 R4nd0m1 (talk) 09:18, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Personal Life section is poorly written
It is incoherent and does not follow any sort of logical order, chronological or otherwise. The quote at the end seems misplaced; I suggest someone who knows how to use Wikipedia reorders the information for the sake of readability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.22.26.107 (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Additionally there is so much unimportant, useless information in this section that out makes me question why this person has a wiki entry at all; Dr Hawking doesn't have a page with this much information (although most of this page's info is useless and lowers the credibility of wiki) this page desperately needs to be gutted and minimized.

Request to change height
Mr. DeFranco has stated that his height is incorrect. This being the case it should be corrected to 6 foot. Proof in video that due to copyright issues I am unable to link. Please see channel PhillyD and video Ninja Baby And A Fat Guy!, the statement is made at 4 minutes. Thank you, Derrick Faria — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.108.67 (talk) 06:03, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2014
Taylorshae (talk) 06:20, 3 July 2014 (UTC) he is 5'11
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor Sing 06:42, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Twitch
I think it is worth noting that he currently often streams on twitch.tv http://www.twitch.tv/defrancogames 70.29.32.71 (talk) 14:39, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Request for Comments
There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 05:19, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Name change
This reddit comment states he has legally changed his last name to "DeFranco", but right now this article still only describes it as only a stage name, listing his former name first. Perhaps this could be changed. Elzbenz (talk) 00:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Bad references
I removed all the refs that were based on YouTube inasmuch as this article is about a YouTube personality and so the refs are probably posted by this guy himself, or someone on his behalf. Likewise, SoundCloud, which does not have an editorial staff. I also suspect the vast majority of stuff on this page. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:16, 10 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't say that they're bad if they're just supporting references that don't drive the article. Tweets are accepted as citations. YouTube videos are AV media and therefore aren't "bad" just because they're YouTube videos. Soulbust (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

"Internet famous"
@Alizaa02: Philip DeFranco does not need achievements outside of YouTube to be an famous on the internet. Some people are in the category merely for being famous on Vine or Instagram. However, DeFranco does have nearly a million followers on Twitter, over a million on Facebook and over half a million on Instagram. He has a popular podcast on Soundcloud and numerous credits on IMDB as a producer and writer. What more do you need? Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 00:26, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Proposed merge with The Philip DeFranco Show
The person and the show are virtually indistinguishable. Many of the notability claims made here are, in fact, claims of notability for the person and not the show. -- HighKing ++ 15:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I generally support merges, but it looks like other channels like Sourcefed for which he's responsible have their own pages. Bangabandhu (talk) 05:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , I think SourceFed is notable in its own right but I'm not seeing any notability for the Philip DeFranco Show in its own right. Looks like the notability is inherited from DeFranco. -- HighKing ++ 13:12, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Oppose: His show is notable in it's own right as a product, he's just the host of it. It's the same reason with Conan O'Brien and Conan are separate articles.

Fix the page please
THe last 6 edits are straight up vandalism, I would do it but I lost track of what's right and wrong, start by the height and we should be seriously considering some protection for the page. Johndark93 (talk) 09:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Connection to the Alt-Right
I feel that it would be in the best interest of the public to have Mr. DeFranco listed as having ties to the alt-right and neo-nazi sphere of influence on youtube. What this would effectively do is ensure that anyone who googles his name will take his words with a grain of salt as opposed to be subtly brainwashed by extremist groups that are associated with his channel and personna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1004:B03E:9326:945D:6797:4B1C:F0F0 (talk) 20:39, 8 June 2019 (UTC)


 * No source. Although it looks like a smear campaign is in the works. I will revert any edits from your IP address. Ikmxx (talk) 04:01, 9 June 2019 (UTC)


 * You yourself have clearly watched some of Philip DeFranco's videos, therefore YOU likewise have ties to the alt-right and neo-nazis. Do you see how that works?  The writer of the article has claimed it was not his intention to make that association, meaning it was nothing more than left-wing media clickbait/ragebait, and it worked like a charm.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.133.176 (talk) 14:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

If the New York Times said air didn't exist, would you believe it? 2601:601:9C80:680:98B3:D8DB:2F9E:6BCB (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I guess this is what we are talking about? --SVTCobra (talk) 16:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

As the NYT doesn't even go so far as to openly claim a link, this shouldn't be included and reverted on sight. Str1977 (talk) 09:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I think instead of Defrancos content, people should be more concerned about claims of "connection", especially with the far-right/alt-right. These claims are usually made by leftists/leftists/progressives/SJWs. The people they "connect" with white nationalists falls on a huge spectrum. Yes this includes other neo-nazis but there are also moderates, liberals and sometimes even marxists. The word "connection" can be easily misunderstood as an endorsement, but in reality it's just interactions. In cases when non-alt-righters gets "connected" to alt-righters, interactions are more often than not hostile, meaning disagreements, debates and even insults and name calling. It's not only disingenuous, but arguably slanderous, to imply that all these political and even apolitical figures endorse white supremacy by having a "connection" Regarding what counts as alt-right, I think the defining characteristics of them are: an explicit belief of the supremacy of the white race and the belief that the west should be a white-only ethnostate (which I believe not only involves a complete halt, not control, of immigration, but also active removal and segregation of the non-white population). I consider people alt-right when they check off these boxes, and I consider people not alt-right when they don't meet these criteria. --45.78.11.73 (talk) 16:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)


 * In stead of six degrees of separation they are doing "six degrees of connection" --SVTCobra (talk) 16:45, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

It might be worth noting here that the writer of the article has modified the online version of the article to note that DeFranco is not a member of the alt-right, and was just one of the people that the person the article is about watched. 172.58.38.156 (talk) 01:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

It's been a few weeks now. I believe we all agree that the unfounded accusations are to be reverted on sight. Also, since the New York Times writer has clarified that the photo was misinterpreted, in the future we will need to be careful to avoid low-quality sources that are re-hashing the misunderstood New York Times article. Ikmxx (talk) 06:35, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Meeting Joe Biden
The article says:
 * In January 2013, DeFranco announced that he would be meeting with United States Vice President Joe Biden to discuss the topic of gun laws.[44] Google's official blog revealed that the two, along with Guy Kawasaki would be discussing in a Google+ Hangout.[45] The discussion moderator was revealed to be PBS NewsHour's Hari Sreenivasan.[46]

While this is probably just the typical lazy editing along the lines of "Let's include annoucement after announcement without bothering about when the even actually happened", I am nevertheless wondering whether the event happened. Which really would be noteworthy, whereas some announcemens 6 years ago that never led to anything are not. Str1977 (talk) 09:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * PS. I have found footage of the hangout so it took place. I am rewording the passage to reflect this, also removing superfluous information like who the moderator was. However, this is still lacking proper sourcing as a youtube video, which is actually an onion-based review of the event isn't suitable for this. Str1977 (talk) 10:10, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * If you want the full broadcast as published by the Obama administration's official YouTube channel, it is here. Cheers, --SVTCobra (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I wasn't looking for the broadcast to watch as I'm not really interested in the matter (though I have included it for the time being as a ref). I was looking for proper reference to source that the event happened (YT videos are discouraged for that). All this covering of announcements is a huge grievance on WP. Str1977 (talk) 17:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Maybe this will do. Approved on WP:RSP. Cheers --SVTCobra (talk) 18:48, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * RSP says this Content uploaded from a verified official account, such as that of a news organization, may be treated as originating from the uploader and therefore inheriting their level of reliability about YouTube videos, however. --SVTCobra (talk) 19:10, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Career 2017-present missing from article
On 12 October, a revision was made to eliminate poorly sourced text. While I agree with the editor's decision, it unfortunately left a big hole in the article (DeFranco's career 2017-present, post-Discovery's shuttering of Revision3. I've added a 'missing information' tag to the top of the page, and I've rescued what (poorly-sourced) material there used to be, here below. Hopefully someone with knowledge of this area can com in and rebuild the section in the article with quality sources. —Shrinkydinks (talk) 10:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Rogue Rocket and creating a news network (2017–present)

On May 1, 2017, Philip DeFranco made the announcement in a YouTube video that he has regained control of all of his properties (including both of his channels) and is working towards building "The Philip DeFranco Network", of which he is the founder and CEO. DeFranco also created the production company Rogue Rocket to oversee production of his current content, along with its expansion.

Upon becoming an independent creator once again, DeFranco launched the "DeFranco Elite" initiative on fan-funding website Patreon, mostly in response to much of his YouTube content being demonetized. Viewers of DeFranco's content can donate money and receive extra incentives. Philly D, his second channel, was initially used for behind-the-scenes for his main series, but now it serves as a channel where DeFranco vlogs about life events, such as announcing his first child's then-upcoming birth. The channel has now transitioned into making "cine-vlogs", which includes the various mishaps and banter had by him and his staff. DeFranco credits Steven Crowder's and Rooster Teeth's respective paid subscription services as inspirations for his own.

Went to St. Philip Neri School - Bronx, NY
before they were famous says he went to St. Philip Neri School - Bronx, NY, we should find a better source. I checked the school website but they don't say it.--Alizaa2 (talk) 16:10, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

New sources
I found some possible useful sources to add from old videos, to try and develop the early parts of the article. I made the list at Talk:Philip DeFranco/Possible sources.
 * he was producing videos in October and November 2016 with his then partner "misjudi"
 * the earliest upload found was in November 7, 2006
 * December 18, 2006 said he was still in NY, will then go to my moms, and then back home
 * April 25, 2007 arrived home in Asheville, NC Right now I'm staying at my Mom's house
 * April 25, 2007 Arrived at the old house and thought I'd give you a glimpse of my Westie and horses. I am in Asheville, NC for the next 7 days...then off to Hawaii..the big island.....then San Diego for 2 days....Tampa for 5 days...then finally NY.

.--Alizaa2 (talk) 15:28, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

A Conversation With
Should the YouTube channel, "A Conversation With" be added to his infobox and Career? It is a podcast available as audio to listen to and as a video on YouTube. The channel was created in 2019, and he interviews people off and on YouTube. Sawhitney36 (talk) 16:46, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

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