Talk:Philip Dorling

One or Two Dorlings...two raids?!
I am not sure that the canberra journo and Brereton's adviser are the same person. However they both have been raided for leaking cabinet info - one in 2008, one in 2003! (see ) --Surturz

Advisor to some gov person should be notable anyhow, we need to confirm same person though. If same, then no trouble. If not, then article split. Removing PROD. &eta;oian  &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  23:43, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I found a WP:RS asserting they are the same person here, it's in the article. Date of first raid is stated to be 2000, not 2003 though. --Surturz (talk) 23:53, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

bio page
Dorling's ADFA bio page: (click here) --Surturz (talk) 01:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Helen Liu court case
 * http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/capital-circle/wikileaks-revelations-about-rudd-put-journalist-phillip-dorling-back-into-the-fray/story-fn59nqgy-1225967650147 backgrounder]

Notability
OK, we need to establish what this guy needs for WP:N. Currently, we have: is this enough to justify keeping this article, or should it be deleted? --Surturz (talk) 05:37, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
 * he has worked for several prominent MPs on prominent issues
 * he is a respected journalist
 * his house has been raided twice in investigations as to the leaking of cabinet documents
 * he has written and edited books, at least two of which are in the National Library of Australia

It's enough. I already stated that above (although maybe I wasn't ness. clear enough). You do need to cite that (with inline citations) and work it into the article if not already in there. &eta;oian  &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  05:39, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * The two published works don't quite meet WP:N for authors - has he written any books (rather than simply edited a compilation volume and authored a briefing note)? The guy I use as my main source for Queensland LGAs has written briefing notes in the same series but also has published books in his area of expertise. Orderinchaos 05:41, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I think he/she meant the entire article (as in what was enough to establish notability for having this article), not specific contents of the article, although I could be wrong. &eta;oian   &Dagger;orever &eta;ew &Dagger;rontiers  05:43, 12 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I've cleaned it up a bit - some minor copyvio issues, ref formatting, and other odds and ends - and generally I think he's sufficiently notable, although only just. At any rate, I'd argue that it's a good fit for Wikipedia, especially as there are a couple of other lines worth exploring (his second book made a bit of an impact, for example, with some of the things that he uncovered). - Bilby (talk) 09:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks all, consensus seems to be keep for now. It is quite satisfying to create an article and see it survive, isn't it? :-) I'll keep an eye out for more notable content. --Surturz (talk) 14:35, 17 December 2008 (UTC)