Talk:Philip Evans and John Lloyd

Llanrothal
The Monmouth article had this in the Notable People section: But there is no mention of Llanrothal here, or indeed in the reference provided for that entry.
 * Philip Evans, Jesuit priest and martyr, was born in the town and based at the nearby Catholic seminary at The Cwm in Llanrothal.

Furthermore this ref, used in this article, seems to be just a copy of this wikipedia article and so should be removed. Thanks Martinevans123 (talk) 12:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Pwll Halog
A note on its location from the book Real Cardiff by Peter Finch (his subject here is City Road):
 * "It's a street everyone knows but hardly anyone loves. Up until the middle of last century it was known as Heol-y-Plwcca after the gallows field at its northern end. Here, in a plot known as 'the Cut Throats', more or less where the Road has its junction with Albany, stood the town gibbet. Nearby were plots called Cae Budr (the defiled field), Plwcca Halog (the unhallowed plot), and Pwll Halog (the unhallowed pool). Today they've got side streets built across them and are happily called Strathnairn, Glenroy and Keppoch. The grimness has been vanquished, buried under backgarden clay and foundation, forgotten."

Martinevans123 (talk) 20:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


 * By "the middle of last century" he presumably means the middle of the 19th century. Verbcatcher (talk) 21:58, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I think so. City Road was "Castle Road" (named after Roath Castle) until 1905. So up until 1874, it seems: . Martinevans123 (talk) 22:03, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Where was St Omer?
I have wikilinked the Colleges of St Omer, Bruges and Liège, because Philip Evans studied there when it was in St. Omer. I was going to add "France", but it's not clear which country St. Omer was in when Evans studied there. See Saint-Omer, Treaties of Nijmegen, County of Flanders, Franco-Dutch War. What should we put to clarify were St. Omer is? I'm currently favouring Flanders. Verbcatcher (talk) 22:21, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Possibly Artois. Verbcatcher (talk) 22:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Certainly, in 1593 when it was set up: "Saint-Omer was chosen as a site conveniently close to England (it is 24 miles from Calais), and ruled by Spain as part of Flanders." But I see that the Thirty Years' War tells us: "The ensuing French campaign against the Spanish forces in Flanders culminated with a decisive French victory at Rocroi in May 1643." So it was back under French control even before Evans was born, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:31, 26 April 2015 (UTC)


 * That makes sense. And Liège? (Sorry not to ask about both at the same time) Verbcatcher (talk) 22:40, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * and Ghent? Verbcatcher (talk) 23:50, 26 April 2015 (UTC)