Talk:Philip Green/Archives/2013

Confusion of Tina Green owned assets with Philip Green owned assets
Regardless of one's personal opinion of Philip Green, Arcadia is irrefutably owned by Tina Green. Philip has had an important role is helping his wife secure these assets, but he does not own them. '''References to Tina Green's assets should be kept on Tina Green's page. If Philip has a role in acquiring these assets for his wife, that is appropriate material for this page'''

Who Wrote This?
Seems as though Philip Green wrote it... 67.42.92.88 19:32, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Religious Beliefs?
I can find no other instance of a CEO or businessman having a "religious beliefs" row in the infobox. It's not really relevant and I think it was only added so that readers would know this unflattering article was about a Jewish person. Fits with the anti-semitic remark noted above, so I'm removing it. Brendtron5000 (talk) 18:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Unflattering maybe, but biased? I don't think so. Fences  &amp;  Windows  21:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Are you saying we should not know this "unflattering article" was about a Jewish person? Is it the readers' fault that Green's biography is unflattering? Why is it only Jewish people who are exempt from having their history linked to their ethnicity in Wikipedia?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.122.187.10 (talk) 23:58, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * "Why is it only Jewish people who are exempt from having their history linked to their ethnicity in Wikipedia?" Totally backwards; read the original note. I could not find any other business people who had their religious beliefs in the infobox. Why should this article be an exception?
 * F&W, I agree with you that this article is unflattering but not biased. My only objection is that by picking and choosing which articles included things like religious beliefs/ethnicity, Wikipedia can pick up a kind of "meta-bias" over all articles.Brendtron5000 (talk) 18:17, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm also confused as to why his religion or ethnicity features so prominently. The second sentence of the article at the moment reads "Philip Green was born into a Jewish family[1] on 15 March 1952 in Croydon, in South London..." Other articles about figures in business don't give the same weight to religion or ethnicity. For example, the article on Richard Branson makes no mention at all of whether his parents were Christians, Sikhs, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, athiests or anything else. Why is Philip Green's ethnicity notable?Hobson (talk) 00:35, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * A number of editors seem to be puzzled as to why references to the religion of Philip Green's parents featured in this article and no editors have made a case for keeping them. I have checked articles about other business figures, namely Richard Branson, Digby Jones, Baron Jones of Birmingham, David Sainsbury, Baron Sainsbury of Turville, Justin King (businessman) and Karren Brady and none of them made reference to the religion of the subject's parents when the subject was born. As far as I can tell then, the convention is not to include such information. If any editors intend to re-insert the information here, perhaps they could explain why they feel the religion of the subject's parents is particularly notable in this case? Hobson (talk) 17:02, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

New role
Philip Greenspan has begun his spell as an advisor to the UK government by recommending approaches to bill payment that, as well as being unethical (defer payments to suppliers as long as possibl), will adversely affect small businesses. This approach should be described in the article, especially in the light of criticisms of his business track record which includes, as already recorded in Wikipedia, Tax avoidance, Excessive pay, Worker rights (sweatshop-style pay and conditions in the UK and overseas) Personal style which is overly aggressive, 'colourful' language (expletive-laden outbursts to a respected financial editor ('"He can't read English. Mind you, he is a fucking Irishman"). Whilst such an approach might be considered excusable, by some, in the 'business world', the suitability as an approach by a government, setting it against its electors, is questionable, to say the least, with consequential doubts arising about the approach of a goverment that could be seen to view its electors as 'business competitors' to be beaten..

It is especially ironic that information by Wikipedia users has been removed on the grounds of being 'racist', whilst Philip, himself, uses phrases such as, "He can't read English. Mind you, he is a fucking Irishman".

Where's he from?
The main body of the article opens (12/Oct/2010):


 * 'The family moved to Hampstead Garden Suburb, a middle-class enclave in north London'

From where did the family move? What did they do? (A normal part of a person's background in Wikipedia).

Why have such aspects been omitted? It gives the impression of an image makeover by a PR company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.29.209 (talk) 07:08, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

"Sir Philip Green (born 15 March 1952) is a British billionaire businessman"

He may be British to you, but to me he is merely a man born in Britain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.122.187.10 (talk) 23:54, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

NNPOV
This article seems to have serious NPOV problems on both pro- and anti-sides.

The "tax avoidance" stuff is stated as if it has been decided by a court--so far as I'm aware it is only the *belief* of the protestors. This needs to be more clear, or someone needs to cite proof from a legitimate source. Also half of it sounds like it was cobbled together from today's BBC news article. 98.112.119.33 (talk) 03:58, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Monacan
Would it be possible to find a source for the statement that he is Monacan? Two sources were cited but neither of them states that he is Monacan. They both state that he lives in Monaco which is not the same thing. Alternatively, the article could be changed to state that he lives in Monaco, which does not seem to be disputed?Hobson (talk) 21:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * I spent a fair while looking for evidence of Green's naturalisation as a Monaco citizen, and couldn't find anything. Monaco citizenship law bans dual nationality, and Green is still referred to as "Sir Philip" (which isn't the case for non-UK nationals with British knighthoods), and there are no news reports suggesting Green has renounced his UK citizenship. Therefore, I've corrected the piece to "Monaco-resident". If someone comes up with evidence to the contrary, they can change it back... 124.168.181.171 (talk) 22:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Lead is a joke
Come off it, the most important thing in Philip Green's life is not the UK Uncut protests. Clear biased editing is going on here. Fences &amp;  Windows  21:53, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Friends with Lord Hanson
The article states he is friends with Lord Hanson, but he died in 2004. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.229.184.228 (talk) 18:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Asset stripping section deleted
I deleted the section as it contained unreferenced and unsubstantiated allegations that looked actionable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.162.191 (talk) 06:59, 10 June 2011 (UTC)