Talk:Philip Humber's perfect game

NYY market DID see the Perfect Game
I live in New York, which gave me the NYY @ BOS broadcast. However, Fox cut away from that game to see the ending of the perfect game (later coming back to the New York @ Boston game after completion). I want to say that the last paragraph in the intro section is false, but I don't want to remove it, as I am only one person without proof of other areas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bowler225 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Copyvio?
Would it be a copyvio to just copy in the following content (from http://www.etfinalscore.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2943&catid=7&Itemid=393 or edited from http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/playbyplay?gameId=320421112&teams=chicago-white-sox-vs-seattle-mariners):

Mariners First: Chone Figgers grounds out, first baseman Paul Konerko to pitcher Phil Humbert; Dustin Ackley grounds out, second baseman Gordon Beckham to first baseman Paul Konerko; Ichiro Suzuki lines out to shortstop Alexei Ramirez.

Mariners Second: Justin Smoak strikes out swinging; Kyle Seager strikes out swinging; Jesus Montero strikes out swinging.

Mariners Third: Miguel Saunders pops out to first baseman Paul Konerko; Miguel Olivo strikes out swinging; Munenori Kawasaki pops out to third baseman Brent Morel in foul territory.

Mariners Fourth: Chone Figgers flies out to left fielder Dayan Viciedo; Dustin Ackley lines out to right fielder Alex Rios; Ichiro Suzuki strikes out swinging.

Mariners Fifth: Justin Smoak pops out to shortstop Alexei Ramirez; Kyle Seager flies out to center fielder Alejandro De Aza; Jesus Montero flies out to left fielder Dayan Viciedo.

Mariners Sixth: Miguel Saunders flies out to center fielder Alejandro De Aza; Miguel Olivo pops out to second baseman Gordon Beckham; Munenori Kawasaki bunt grounds out, pitcher Phil Humbert to first baseman Paul Konerko.

Mariners Seventh: Chone Figgers strikes out swinging; Dustin Ackley pops out to shortstop Alexei Ramirez; Ichiro Suzuki grounds out to first baseman Paul Konerko.

Mariners Eighth: Justin Smoak strikes out swinging; Kyle Seager lines out to left fielder Brent Lillibridge; Jesus Montero grounds out, second baseman Gordon Beckham to first baseman Paul Konerko.

Mariners Ninth: Miguel Saunders strikes out swinging; John Jaso, pinch-hitting for Miguel Olivo, flies out to right fielder Alex Rios; Brendan Ryan, pinch-hitting for Munenori Kawasaki, strikes out swinging catcher A.J. Pierzynski to first baseman Paul Konerko.


 * Seems like it would be. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:50, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. COPYVIO does not apply to facts. If the terms are proper baseball ones you could pretty well copy word for word.--Canoe1967 (talk) 03:07, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Blake Beavan
Something seems off about his story. What do people think?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:25, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know what to make of it, other than that Beavan was wrong. Since Beavan is younger than Humber, it's possible they did have the same HS coach. He could've gone from Carthage to Irving in between their HS careers. Perhaps when his coach compared Beavan to Humber, Beavan assumed Humber went to the same school. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I see you have hidden the following text: According to a story in the The Bellingham Herald, Beavan claimed that both players had the same high school coach and both players played in Irving, Texas.


 * I have no problem with this decision.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:44, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Lead needs tweak?
Can the final score be added to the lead, and the umpires names be moved to another section? I am more a hockey fan until the Canucks lost again, so I wouldn't feel right editing a baseball article.
 * Final score added to the lead. You can edit any article you want. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

slow motion video showing that Brendan Ryan did not check his swing
I tried to add a sentence with a reference to a YouTube video that showed that Brendan Ryan did not check his swing. But it was immediately reverted by Muboshgu due to "synthesis", but I don't understand the reasoning. The definition of synthesis is: "Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources." I didn't combine material, it was a video that clearly showed that Ryan went around. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SYNTH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi5LLKahwOQ Uw badgers (talk) 04:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You watch a video and determine that he went around, but what if I were to watch it and decided that I think he checked his swing? There is no "definitive" yes/no on a call like that. Umpiring is subjective, and they make mistakes. It's rare that people, including the umpire, all acknowledge a blown call (Armando Galarraga is the exception). All we can say about Ryan's at bat is that he attempted to check his swing, the umpire ruled that he went around, and Ryan didn't object to it when asked in the clubhouse. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

However, Ryan clearly vehemently objected while on the field. If you watch the MLB.TV recording of the game, you can see shots of him jawing at the umpire and violently throwing his helmet to the ground. It is true that the call belongs 100% to the umpire; as one umpire said at some time, some place, when asked "What is that pitch?" replied, "It ain't nothin' until I call it." Poihths (talk) 19:22, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed removal of redundant publisher information
A number of citations in this article unnecessarily include the publisher for periodicals and websites that have their own Wikipedia article. This information has no value to anyone wanting to check or track down references. For example, publisher=Washington Post Company for references to The Washington Post, or publisher=MLB Advanced Media for references to MLB.com, only make the article longer - significantly longer when repeated many times - without adding anything useful. Therefore I plan to upgrade the article's citations to remove all such redundant publisher info, bringing them into line with the recommended use of the cite template (see Template:Citation). I'll also remove redundant 'location' parameters (e.g. work=New York Times|location=New York), as suggested by the template's usage guidelines. Please raise any questions here or on my talk page. Colonies Chris (talk) 15:14, 26 November 2012 (UTC)