Talk:Philip Morehead

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Subject of multiple references, please do some homework before nominating for a speedy. Its harder than just adding a delete tag, but research isn't supposed to be easy.

Major source used with permission of author: patphil.com
 * I think you need to do this first then Requesting copyright permission - it's not enough for the author to have given permission for use on wikipedia, it has to be released with a free license for use by anyone and anywhere --J2thawiki 18:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The material is facts without commentary which cannot be copyrighted. And the author has given permission to use his biography as the basis for the Wikipedia article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 18:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * In which case you should have no problem allowing the csd tag to remain (as it states you need to) for an unbiased admin to look over. --J2thawiki 18:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Permissions
Philip Morehead  to		Richard Arthur Norton date		Mar 10, 2007 3:51 PM you certainly have my permission to use the bio. you can use the attached photo, not a professional picture and thanks for your efforts!


 * For this to remain permission should be asserted by this process. Until this is done, this could technically be speedied. Rockpock  e  t  21:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The process was already completed, hence the response above. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 22:56, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, well once the OTRS confirmation is up everything should be resolved. Rockpock  e  t  23:01, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

"TRS confirmation" I am not following you, all permissions were emailed to permissions-en@wikimedia.org as per instructions.


 * "...somebody with access to OTRS will come along and tag the article or image with { { PermissionOTRS|ticket=http://linktoticket.org }} providing evidence of the received email and clearing the status of the item in question," according to the instructions. Rockpock  e  t  00:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * How long does this process take? It's now been over two weeks. --J2thawiki 11:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Moving along
OK, let's assume the copy has been properly donated to the public domain. Then what to do with this article?

Basically, it looks like a JAAP (Just Another Accomplished Person) case. I'm happy for him that he's had a successful career, but so have many millions of others. I don't think that this is a speedy but should go to AfD. That is, it should go to AfD except that he did write a book.

According to amazon.com he's the editor of "The Penguin Roget's College Thesaurus in Dictionary Form", which is certainly an important standard work from a big publisher and must sell zillions of copies. "New American Crossword Puzzle Dictionary" and "The New American Webster's Handy College Dictionary" and Hoyles are also real books from real publishers, granting that these titles are all in the public domain so I'm not sure how notable these editions are. Anyway, he's only the editor, so while that counts for something it doesn't scream "encyclopedia article!" at me

But "The New International Dictionary of Music" appears to be a real book from a real publisher, and he apparently wrote that. On the other hand, it's out of print. For the other claimed authorship - there are several Penguin Thesauri but there's no indication at amazon that any are associated with Mr Morehead.

This is kind of a borderline case. I'm unsure whether to take this to AfD or not. It's not a speedy, because of the book. Herostratus 04:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I take your point but - to be honest - I can't see it being deleted by AfD in the current culture. I think I would keep if because of the book and the number of editorships. Rockpock  e  t  06:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Meh. I'm not going to nominate it. There's plenty worse articles. Herostratus 02:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Parents Albert and Loy Morehead
"the son of writer Albert Hodges Morehead". Albert Morehead was an expert on games, puzzles, and words as well as an important contract bridge editor and journalist (espy NYTimes bridge editor-columnist November 1934 thru December 1963; daily from January 1960). He is sometimes called a lexicographer and partly-created some dictionary/thesaurus reference books.

Quoting Philip Morehead. WARNING: some may be works by his father Albert Morehead or parents Albert and Loy Morehead. The son may have updated their reference books.

The catalog search report shows that some of the 9 are credited primarily if not exclusively to one or both of his parents Albert and Loy Morehead. There is some error in serving the catalog records to me now so the role of Philip and his parent(s) must be revisited later. Probably this will deserve some coverage in the text.

--P64 (talk) 20:11, 8 February 2015 (UTC)