Talk:Philip V of Spain

Abdication
Why did he abdicate in 1724? He was only 40 years old at the time. 68.40.65.164 03:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

King of Castilla not of of Spain!
In the Nueva Planta decrees (1716), himself signs as "rey de Castilla" (Spanish for king of Castilla), as well as many other titles, but not as King of Spain, title cited for the first time in a Constitution, in the Spanish Constitution of 1978 2, even if some would prefer otherwise!.--Paco &#9993; 16:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The designation may have not been official, but it is used. Note the article Felipe V de España, which is Spanish for "Philip V of Spain". Charles 22:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)


 * he was really an emperor, and not merely a king. - besides, he was king (emperor) of Aragon as well.-77.231.81.87 (talk) 18:12, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Source material and citations.
This article contains no citation, but makes assertion that need justification, i.e. issues pursuant to Philip V's abdication. Additionally, there are no primary sources, only one biography of Philip V, a biography of Isabella Farnese, and a monograph on the Spanish royalty.

The article is in need of a thorough editing and perhaps even a more deliberated treatment in a re-write.

--E. Lighthart (talk) 15:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

"So called" and Half Bavarian/Half French
I see no reason to litter the article with unsubstantiated claims and nonsense regarding his racial ancestry! This page will be reported to Admins for observation, and continued edits of this nature will be reported. No reasons have been given for these additions, including this garbage added into the article: "He can then, today, without fears of wrath, be described as French-Bavarian rather than 'French' as XIX Century historians described him, as he got genes from his French and Bavarian inmediate ancestors, in the same biological sense that his father and his grand father, the King of France, were not strictly speaking 'French'. Subjects may can have 'nationalities by the reason of birth', genes, and inherited diseases, do not."

Poorly written, unsubstantiated, and nonsensical tripe for the reader to wallow through. Just exactly what is the point? I could care less if he were from Oklahoma! --Kansas Bear (talk) 22:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Removed a paragraph
I removed a paragraph here pending someone telling me what the hell it means.

"The actual are finally, in Spain, in favor of the troops "philippistes", sometimes to the price of slaughters and of destructions, as to Xàtiva, burned in 1707. Philip V except his holds court thanks to the victories of Almansa by the Duke of Berwick in 1707, and of Villaviciosa and Brihuega by the Duke of Vendôme in 1710."

Perhaps lost in translation? Going to take a close look at all this. --Phil5329 (talk) 04:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Here is when it was added by TbHarding. --Kansas Bear (talk) 06:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Philip vs Philippe
I replaced all the Philippe's with Philip but mentioned in the intro that he was also known as Philippe de France, just to standardize everything. If anyone with more insight on this than me wants to change that, well then I guess that is what Wikipedia is all about!--Phil5329 (talk) 20:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I can only support your edit. Surtsicna (talk) 20:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I would say that we should call him "Anjou" before 1700, and "Philip" afterwards. john k (talk) 01:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wouldn't it be confusing to change the name midway thru? Is their a precedent for that?--Phil5329 (talk) 02:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Equestrian statue
Deleted the part about the equestrian statue toppling. The earthquake was three months after Philip's death, so I thought it wasn't particularly significant. May re-add later if I expand this article so much that that seems more fitting. See Shaky colonialism: the 1746 earthquake-tsunami in Lima, Peru--Phil5329 (talk) 21:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Heraldry is relevant
Coats of arms are relevant, as articles about British Monarchs. There have solid sources. Coat of arms image reduced and hidden option so no really article extend --Heralder (talk) 01:15, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Predecessor/Successor
Louis I can not have both jobs. Definite mistake here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PointRabbit (talk • contribs) 17:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

first years of Felipe V
The most important thing in Felipe V 's reign were the political and economical reforms by his French and Italian ministers. When Louis XIV of France accepted the Spanish throne for his grandson, he imposed the condition that Anne Marie de la Tremoille, princess of Ursini (princesse des Ursins) would be the queen's "secretary" with the official title of "camarera mayor" (chief of the household). In Spain this lady was called "princesa de los Ursinos". This lady Tremoille or Ursins became at once who really took the political decisions of government for many years, because the king was not interested at all in politics. The king or emperor was only interested in food, music, sex and hunting, so he happily left the government in Ursinos' hands. Besides Ursinos, a lot of power was also held by the Frenchman Jean Orry, as minister of Economy. The court of Spain was completely dominated by France in these years and until 1714: Ursinos "convinced" the empress of everything and the empress "convinced" then the emperor. Another man very important, and minister, was the French ambassador, Jean Amelot. Orry was minister of Economy till February 1715. -77.231.81.87 (talk) 17:42, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Felipe V 's last years
In the beginning of 1716 the Italian Giulio Alberoni became the true "premier" of Spain. He was a churchman and with time he would become cardinal. He continued the centralizing politics began by Orry. He was the "supporter" of the duke of Parma in Madrid, and he himself convinced Ursinos that the emperor would marry Parma's daughter, Isabel de Farnesio, who in Spain would be called "la parmesana" (Parma woman). It was "funny" that the first thing done by Farnesio was to put Ursinos quickly out of the court, and put her on "God's hands". From this moment, Farnesio was who really took the political decisions in Spain, because her husband was not interested in politics, as we said above. Farnesio arrived at Spain at the end of 1714. Farnesio herself decided to go on with the wars in Italy: she wanted the Italian thrones for her children. For Spain, these decisions were horrible: the cost was two big wars against Austria; the first war in 1718 and then the Austrian war of Succesion in 1740-48. In his last years, the emperor suffered many attacks of insanity: the empress used them to increase her power more and more.

-- I dont write all this information in the main article, because i dont have the references with me -- -77.231.81.87 (talk) 18:12, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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"Philip married his double-second cousin." Huh?
What's a double second cousin? I understand cousin, cousin once removed, double cousins, and second cousins (people whose parents were first cousins), but I've never heard of double second cousins. I've looked it up and find nothing. Please explain - and clarify in the article! By the way, I don't think there should be a hyphen in "double second cousin" because I can't imagine "double-second" being a compound adjective. DBlomgren (talk) 04:42, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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"Issue" section
Forgive me if this is just phrasing I don't know, but why is there a section called "Issue" containing ancestry/marriage details? Should it just be moved to the ancestry section? I'm unclear what the section's purpose is. Apathyash (talk) 00:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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