Talk:Philip Young (security officer)

Requested move 4 January 2022

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Philip Young (security officer)  Mike Cline (talk) 17:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Philip Young (murderer) → Philip Young (Pardoned) – Term 'murderer' is heavily disputed by many sources, which resulted in his eventual pardon 113828L (talk) 20:34, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a contested technical request (permalink). Dr. Vogel (talk) 00:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've looked at the sources cited in the article, and I can't find anything that says he was pardoned (although he was released early from his prison sentence.) A better title may be Philip Young (prisoner), which was used at a recent RM; see Talk:Julius Jones (prisoner). 162 etc. (talk) 20:56, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Or move to Philip Young (pardoned)? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:03, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Did you read 162's comment above? If he wasn't pardoned, then capitalisation isn't really the issue. Even if he was though, "(pardoned)" would be a very nonstandard disambiguator, so this needs an RM either way. Lennart97 (talk) 23:53, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Dr. Vogel (talk) 00:36, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Or move to Philip Young (Security specialist) as this was his occupation. 113828L (talk) 08:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Being a prisoner is what made him notable, not being a security specialist. 162 etc. (talk) 17:05, 4 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment. The current title may not be appropriate, but Philip Young (pardoned) is a ridiculous disambiguator. I'm never fond of "prisoner" as a disambiguator. And he's not actually notable for that either. He's notable for being convicted of murder, even if he didn't commit murder. Given that's too long-winded, Philip Young (security specialist) or Philip Young (security officer) is probably the best option. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:52, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Philip Young (security specialist) or Philip Young (security officer) Dr. Vogel (talk) 14:05, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Support Philip Young (security officer) or Philip Young (prisoner). "(prisoner)" is a second choice for me. Prisoner is a little strange as it is the fact that he was convicted that he was known for, but murderer seems far too cut and dry for something seemingly so contested. Just going with the position he had when he became notable is probably the most neutral way to say it, beyond (convicted of murder) which is far too unwieldy a disambiguation. --Cerebral726 (talk) 19:39, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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