Talk:Philippine resistance against Japan

Unbalanced
This article is heavily weighted towards the Hukbalahap role in the resistance during the Japanese occupation. I understand that this article is a work in progress, but presently (as of this post) this article is unbalanced.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 00:08, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

The huks has the biggest army in the guerrilla movement 100,000 partisans--Evensacornevensacorn (talk) 00:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have not seen reliable sources that verify the 100k number. I have found sources that can verify an overall resistance number, and specific numbers to specific units/organizations, but not for the Huk. Furthermore, this source, written by the General Staff of GA MacArthur has zero information on any Moro resistance units.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:32, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Guerilla currency during the occupation
The financial situation of anti-Japanese guerilla fighters.

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Rajmaan (talk) 03:39, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Moro resistance on Mindanao and Borneo
Akira Makino

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2007/11/06/2003386494

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2007/11/06/2003386494/2

http://www.bt.com.bn/focus/2007/10/31/a_life_haunted_by_wwii_surgical_killings

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/dissect-them-alive-chilling-imperial-that-order-could-not-be-di/story-e6frg6so-1111113061584

http://www.forties.net/japconfession.html

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ht5P8U54dLa7dH9mqjKyurq0zQMw?hl=en

http://books.google.com/books?id=glVxAAAAMAAJ

http://books.google.com/books?id=glVxAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=butcher

http://books.google.com/books?id=glVxAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=tortured

http://books.google.com/books?id=glVxAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=beheaded

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZzMmpCinBYoC&pg=PA197&dq=mindanao++six+months+japanese+moro&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aZrmUui3CY2isATkn4Fo&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=mindanao%20%20six%20months%20japanese%20moro&f=false

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http://books.google.com/books?id=5Qf39DpguysC&pg=PA125#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=dvyc5YvN4lcC&pg=PA47&dq=moro+keris+japanese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IF9gUrfYKfHd4AOGpYGYDw&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=moro%20keris%20japanese&f=false

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PARRANG SABBIL: RITUAL SUICIDE AMONG THE TAUSUG OF JOLO by THOMAS M. KIEFER Bijdragen tot de Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde Deel 129, 1ste Afl., ANTHROPOLOGICA XV (1973), pp. 108-123 Published by: KITLV, Royal Netherlands Institute of Southeast Asian and Caribbean Studies Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/27861310

http://booksandjournals.brillonline.com/docserver/22134379/129/1/@APPLICATION.BASE.URL@/error/authentication;jsessionid=2e1houmbfgnhl.x-brill-live-02

http://books.google.com/books?id=6T39iCmUzMkC&pg=PA2#v=onepage&q&f=false

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http://books.google.com/books?id=tm8tSwyTa7AC&pg=PA178#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://www.cidcm.umd.edu/mar/assessment.asp?groupId=84003

http://mnlfnet.com/Articles/BYC_29July2012_Reclaiming%20Bangsamoro%20Humanity%20from%20Foreign%20Colonizers.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=4ERxAAAAMAAJ&q=kris+japanese+moro&dq=kris+japanese+moro&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F19gUp7SMfSh4AOf4YDQDw&ved=0CDsQ6AEwATgo

http://nointervention.com/archive/pubs/CWIS/imnr.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20070203183239/http://www.cwis.org/fwj/21/imnr.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=KkO-DHcRVMoC&pg=PA124#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://www.saudiaramcoworld.com/issue/196504/kris.and.crescent.htm

http://www.fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents/sword.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=He3IAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA81&dq=kris+japanese+moro&hl=en&sa=X&ei=51FgUvDrMMLA4APwtoCoDA&ved=0CGsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=kris%20japanese%20moro&f=false

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,802183,00.html

http://books.google.com/books?id=OamLr-D0T34C&pg=PA138&dq=kris+japanese+moro&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_F1gUsfSMvXd4AOq3YE4&ved=0CDsQ6AEwATgU#v=onepage&q=kris%20japanese%20moro&f=false

Gumbay Piang

http://books.google.com/books?id=ZgWnN4hyjoQC&pg=PA271#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=4FAeAAAAMAAJ&q=gumbay+piang+moro+bolo&dq=gumbay+piang+moro+bolo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GX_yUrDJM4jMsQSLnoK4BQ&ved=0CD8Q6wEwAw

http://books.google.com/books?id=HRdVkGoJHmUC&pg=PA208&dq=moro+keris+japanese&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IF9gUrfYKfHd4AOGpYGYDw&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=moro%20keris%20japanese&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=HRdVkGoJHmUC&pg=PA207&dq=kris+japanese+moro&hl=en&sa=X&ei=51FgUvDrMMLA4APwtoCoDA&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=kris%20japanese%20moro&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=XpKHdg-5TyQC&pg=PA270&dq=Japanese+prisoner+being+led+by+some+Moros+signs+shoot+tortured+Sulu&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-JMCU9uQCaPy0wGTvIGABA&ved=0CDUQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q=Japanese%20prisoner%20being%20led%20by%20some%20Moros%20signs%20shoot%20tortured%20Sulu&f=false

Rajmaan (talk) 22:59, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Rajmaan (talk) 01:18, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Japanese occupation of British Borneo

Chinese and Suluk Tausug launched joint uprising in 10/10/1943 against the Japanese on Borneo. The Japanese then nearly exterminated the Suluks, massacring nearly all their men, and women and children at a mosque.

http://books.google.com/books?id=7PuvyKPz5f4C&pg=RA1-PA469#v=onepage&q&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=E1D5wKKZDHoC&pg=PA123&dq=Jesselton+189+suluks&hl=en&sa=X&ei=NoJfUuiHNpL89gSdhoGYCQ&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Jesselton%20189%20suluks&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=7YOxqMKVm0YC&pg=PT121&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_IZfUtL-I5H49gT3yIHoBg&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Jesselton%20japanese%20suluks&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?ei=UItfUoGrGYKe9QTOu4CoDw&id=1lrzAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?ei=NY1fUqiTBomC9gTp24G4Bg&id=KLYhAQAAIAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?ei=wI1fUqTcL4iE9QSWwIH4Dw&id=Ox_TAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?id=RzVUOidajPAC&pg=PA77&dq=British+Borneo+Japanese+Imperial+Double+Tenth+incident&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0CRDU-WaAqTe2QWG8IGQBg&ved=0CCwQ6wEwAA#v=onepage&q=British%20Borneo%20Japanese%20Imperial%20Double%20Tenth%20incident&f=false

Suluks were led by Panglima Ali, Chinese were led by Alberk Kwok (I. N. Kwok)(Guo Yi Nan)(Guo Hengnan) Teochew

http://books.google.com/books?id=NZWqvMBu80kC&pg=PA111&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_IZfUtL-I5H49gT3yIHoBg&ved=0CFIQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Jesselton%20japanese%20suluks&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=Kjc0cC8ug-QC&pg=PA196&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&hl=en&sa=X&ei=_IZfUtL-I5H49gT3yIHoBg&ved=0CEcQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Jesselton%20japanese%20suluks&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?ei=_IZfUtL-I5H49gT3yIHoBg&id=iMFWAAAAYAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluks

http://books.google.com/books?ei=_IZfUtL-I5H49gT3yIHoBg&id=ZGcOAQAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluks

http://books.google.com/books?ei=UItfUoGrGYKe9QTOu4CoDw&id=2QVnAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?ei=NY1fUqiTBomC9gTp24G4Bg&id=V3IfAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?id=Ob7O2OMWKHQC&pg=PA99&dq=Panglima+ali&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9IdfUsGjIYem9gSQn4HAAg&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Panglima%20ali&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?ei=NY1fUqiTBomC9gTp24G4Bg&id=bLguAQAAIAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluks+prahus

http://books.google.com/books?ei=NY1fUqiTBomC9gTp24G4Bg&id=xM5uAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?ei=NY1fUqiTBomC9gTp24G4Bg&id=1MBuAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?ei=wI1fUqTcL4iE9QSWwIH4Dw&id=FJTlAAAAIAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluks

http://books.google.com/books?ei=UItfUoGrGYKe9QTOu4CoDw&id=S2kaAQAAIAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

Imam Marajukim, from Sulu, coordinated cooperation among the Suluks in the Philippines and Suluks in Borneo, to procure supplies for the resistance against the Japanese.

http://books.google.com/books?ei=UItfUoGrGYKe9QTOu4CoDw&id=L81uAAAAMAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk

http://books.google.com/books?id=aPQMAQAAMAAJ&q=Imam+marajukim&dq=Imam+marajukim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sYtfUs2YCJK-9gStxYFA&ved=0CEMQ6AEwAg

http://books.google.com/books?id=9sMPAQAAIAAJ&q=Imam+marajukim&dq=Imam+marajukim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sYtfUs2YCJK-9gStxYFA&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA

http://books.google.com/books?id=hFSQAAAAIAAJ&q=Imam+marajukim&dq=Imam+marajukim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sYtfUs2YCJK-9gStxYFA&ved=0CFMQ6AEwBQ

http://books.google.com/books?id=chxxAAAAMAAJ&q=Imam+marajukim&dq=Imam+marajukim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sYtfUs2YCJK-9gStxYFA&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAA

http://books.google.com/books?id=1MBuAAAAMAAJ&q=Imam+marajukim&dq=Imam+marajukim&hl=en&sa=X&ei=sYtfUs2YCJK-9gStxYFA&ved=0CD8Q6AEwAQ

http://books.google.com/books?ei=UItfUoGrGYKe9QTOu4CoDw&id=S2kaAQAAIAAJ&dq=Jesselton+japanese+suluks&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=Suluk


 * Create an article on the Mindanao theater of the war, with detailed and referenced material about the Moro resistance against Japan and the war crimes which were said to have taken place. Akira Makino admitted that Japanese committed war crimes against the Moros. Also we need to add Moro resistance groups to the infobox and write a section on them here. There were both Moros fighting alongside the Americans abd Filipinos, and other Moros fighting both Japanese and American forces.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=1f1bAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uFQNAAAAIBAJ&pg=3575,3416994&hl=en

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/csmonitor_historic/doc/513907684.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:AI&type=historic&date=Mar%2003,%201942&author=&pub=Christian%20Science%20Monitor&edition=&startpage=&desc=Moros%20Pledge%20Fight%20to%20End%20On%20Japanese%20in%20Philippines

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BS9PAAAAIBAJ&sjid=aU0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=5016,6304854&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=AS9PAAAAIBAJ&sjid=aU0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=5408,5117092&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=WtdXAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TvUDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1653,203358&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=NqheAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lVMNAAAAIBAJ&pg=4974,918195&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=SSdkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eHsNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1021,137011&hl=en

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=SSdkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=eHsNAAAAIBAJ&pg=1021,137011&hl=en

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Rajmaan (talk) 04:56, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Split
Per WP:TOOBIG, the article is already 120k in size. This far exceeds the size prescribed in the guideline. I suggest that the list of Philippine guerrilla units be split off to a stand-alone list as a sub-article of this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 17:02, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Due to size concerns I have created the article

Unused references
Below is the content which I have removed of unused references that were placed in the reference section of the article.



Contemporaneous News Accounts
--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:18, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Recognized guerrilla wording
I have reverted an IP editors insertion of "recognized guerrilla" wording, the consensus was against using the wording. While it is a term later used by reliable sources after the fact, it does not encompass all individuals who fall under the grouping in the infobox, as it is a term used primarily by the U.S. Government and differs from the figures used by the Philippine government (from what I know).--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:02, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Four combatant split infobox
Given that the Huk and the Moros have been verified to attack resistance forces who weren't of their faction, as well as the Japanese. I propose that the infobox be expanded to list those two aforementioned factions as separate to the faction which was loyal to the Commonwealth of the Philippines and the United States.-- RightCow LeftCoast ( Moo ) 22:35, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Infobox content dispute
I ask to weigh in on content dispute relating to the wording of the infobox. The infobox has been significantly changed by from it's GA state in 2016. I am of the opinion that it makes the infobox non-neutral, and have revert the change to something I believe is more neutral. How should the infobox be? Two combatant, or multiple combatant? Should the forces which opposed the Japanese occupation and the Second Philippine Republic be given a lesser status, and only labelled as guerrillas?-- RightCow LeftCoast ( Moo ) 00:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I was not under the impressions the edits from us 2 were such a dispute or that allegations of non-neutrality was an issue. The allied side is not given "lesser status" listing them as guerrillas. Because the resistance movement on the Philippines was various groups of guerrillas. The current listing with US and its Philippine colony and the "official" Republic of China does not show that guerrilla war/resistance nature of the conflict. China did not send National Revolutionary Army units, for examples. It was just guerrilla groups composed of people from China at the time. US and Philippines were also "only" guerrilla groups, made up of ”escaped” soldiers and civilian volunteers, while Philippines campaign (1944–1945) (or (1941–1942), for that matter) covers the later invasion of regular US Army forces, and lists the belligerents accordingly. The majority of the guerrillas were Filipino, which is why that was listed at the top. I orgiginally connected a flag to the listed individual guerillas, based on their commander, but removed this after considering the its units were mostly consisting of Filipino men despite that Their enemies, on the other hand, were the "official units" according to regular army organisation of the Imperial Japanese Army and the Second Philippine Republic (I only shortened the name in the infobox to Philippine Republic as the other name is quite long. I rationalize the shortening as a valid change as the current government of the Philippines recognizes the Republic as a legitimate predecessor, with Jose P. Laurel as a the offical 3rd president of the country. Meaning its not equivalent to, for example, Independent State of Croatia and Croatia today. There was also no other "Philippine Republic" at the time, so there should be no confusion as to what entity is being referred to.) I also have no objection to putting the Republic as a sub-ordinate puppet-state under Japan.


 * Robert Lapham reports either Luis Taruc or Casto Alejandrino of the Huks met with Col. Thorpe at his Camp Sanchez in the spring of 1942, and the conferees agreed to cooperate, share equipment and supplies, with the Americans providing trainers.  However, though the Huks fought the Japanese, they also "tried to thwart United States Army Forces in the Far East guerrillas", "therefore, they were considered disloyal and were not accorded U.S. recognition or benefits at the end of the war." 


 * Due to this, they can be listed on the ”same side" as the rest of the Anti-Japanese guerrillas, of course separated with the line to show that they are unaffiliated (or rather enemies!) and with the newly added addition (at your good suggestion) to further clarify in the infobox that the Huks also started attacking the US-Filipino recognized guerrillas.
 * I will therefor revert the version the one that has been standing for a very long time now. The GA-status of the text in the article should not be affected by a greatly clarified and non-cluttered infobox, which lists the main guerrilla-commanders and their corresponding units (in order of size), as the previous infobox omitted several of these and included very low ranking people who happened to become more famous later on in life.--Havsjö (talk) 07:03, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


 * After some consideration, I have updated/restored your suggestion (although not fully, for example, in regards to China). The inclusion of the guerrillas in the "units" section, should be enough. I have not created more rows for the Huks or Moros, though, as both "tried" to be in on the same anti-japanese side, even though (as noted in the infobox) attacks in US guerrillas happened. --Havsjö (talk) 08:14, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

This lists Chinese volunteers as beligerents with a link to the Republic of China (as opposed to ethnic Chinese Philippinos). This would appear to be an error. I would tend to support a three belligerent listing as this appears to be more consistent with the "facts". A further comment is that the infobox appears to be being used as a repository for information not in the article as opposed to being a summary of the article. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 23:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)